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#15531
First of all, let me make couple of things clear. I was always a Senna fan. But when FA was beating MS/Ferrari, I had to go with him. As for the teams, McL was always my favorite, although I'm a "driver" kind of fan.

The reason i ask this question is because i'm starting to see things from a different perspective. I'm going to list them in order of relevance:

1- In the past few days LH has been very critical of FA (his arrogance is starting to show) even hoping for him to leave ML. In one interview he said that PDR and himself where trying to make FA feel welcome. Now, why would a rookie want to help a F1 driver with 2 WDC feel comfortable and welcome. I understand the close relationship between RD/LH but he doesn't know everyone else in the team. So he shouldn't be trying to help FA feel ok about McL. The only time you try to make someone feel comfortable and welcomed i when they actually don't feel welcomed. It's the obvious thing.

2- I'm starting to feel that right from the beginning, LH was given special treatment because of RD. Maybe FA shouldn't have made such a big deal out of it, but it could be hard to swallow that unfair treatment and he tried to ask for a better treatment and not a "special one" but RD didn't care about him.

3- Who is the connection between LH and FA? PDR! Now if PDR has a good relationship with LH as the 2 of them where trying to help FA, then why did PDR share the Ferrari info only with FA? I guess that PDR was working along RD to set up FA. Alonso has been very quiet lately, even denying the rift that exists between him and RD/LH and even saying that there is no reason for him to leave McL. Now, if you are the one who betrayed your team, you will feel ashamed about it and would try to leave. Yet, contrary to what RD/LH are saying, FA doesn't seem to be that unhappy.

4- Let's go back to PDR for a moment. My feeling is that FA was set up by McL. Since he moved to the team he must felt unwelcomed because of LH. If I where in his shoes I wouldn't feel that happy either, seeing a rookie being favored over me. It's not about ego, it's about fairness. When the spying saga was revealed, RD tried to use it against FA and here's how. RD allowed PDR to give the info to FA and not LH to incriminate FA before the FIA. Some of you might say well PDR and FA are coutryman and therefore be close. PDR works for McL not FA. RD and LH were aware of the Ferr info but kept quiet about it while PDR was sharing it with FA. The latter probably didn't make such a big deal of it at the beginning because he thought it's the norm in F1. Than, came the Hungarian GP. When LH refused to let FA pass him, and Alonso responded the way he did in the pit lane, RD decided to seize that moment to get FA in more trouble with the FIA.

5- I believe that during that race, RD blackmailed FA about the emails and the info that PDR shared with him. FA not taking s**t from RD anymore (who's protecting dady's boy LH) responded by telling him to go ahead with it. Unfortunately, FA was not aware that he being set up by RD/PDR. In order to prove to FIA that he has good intentions, RD told MM/BE about FA's emails hoping that the FIA will penalize FA and will drop any investigations against McL. RD's plan didn't work and lost the CWC.

6- One thing that proves that I might be right is the warning that FIA gave about any wrong treatment towards FA. I understand that they need the spanish audience but I guess it's beyond that. I think that BE/MM realized what had happened to FA and were trying to protect him from RD/LH duo.

7- I've come to the conclusion that RD is no honest, innocent man and that LH is no prodigy because he had it easy all along. He is not a fighter/challenger. Circumstances have been in his favor all along.

Now, is there a publisher in the house.
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By stonemonkey
#15535
Now, is there a publisher in the house.


I hear Del Ray publish fiction and fantasy.
By supeindesu
#15539
Ron Dennis tryes to clean his own image putting blames on FA, every attack he spits off his mouth has proben as a falsery but the media don't want the truth, they just want sh*t to throw (there will comes the day that those who blames FA will receive the same treatment... you'll see).
#15547
First of all, let me make couple of things clear. I was always a Senna fan. But when FA was beating MS/Ferrari, I had to go with him. As for the teams, McL was always my favorite, although I'm a "driver" kind of fan.

The reason i ask this question is because i'm starting to see things from a different perspective. I'm going to list them in order of relevance:

1- In the past few days LH has been very critical of FA (his arrogance is starting to show) even hoping for him to leave ML. In one interview he said that PDR and himself where trying to make FA feel welcome. Now, why would a rookie want to help a F1 driver with 2 WDC feel comfortable and welcome. I understand the close relationship between RD/LH but he doesn't know everyone else in the team. So he shouldn't be trying to help FA feel ok about McL. The only time you try to make someone feel comfortable and welcomed i when they actually don't feel welcomed. It's the obvious thing.

2- I'm starting to feel that right from the beginning, LH was given special treatment because of RD. Maybe FA shouldn't have made such a big deal out of it, but it could be hard to swallow that unfair treatment and he tried to ask for a better treatment and not a "special one" but RD didn't care about him.

3- Who is the connection between LH and FA? PDR! Now if PDR has a good relationship with LH as the 2 of them where trying to help FA, then why did PDR share the Ferrari info only with FA? I guess that PDR was working along RD to set up FA. Alonso has been very quiet lately, even denying the rift that exists between him and RD/LH and even saying that there is no reason for him to leave McL. Now, if you are the one who betrayed your team, you will feel ashamed about it and would try to leave. Yet, contrary to what RD/LH are saying, FA doesn't seem to be that unhappy.

4- Let's go back to PDR for a moment. My feeling is that FA was set up by McL. Since he moved to the team he must felt unwelcomed because of LH. If I where in his shoes I wouldn't feel that happy either, seeing a rookie being favored over me. It's not about ego, it's about fairness. When the spying saga was revealed, RD tried to use it against FA and here's how. RD allowed PDR to give the info to FA and not LH to incriminate FA before the FIA. Some of you might say well PDR and FA are coutryman and therefore be close. PDR works for McL not FA. RD and LH were aware of the Ferr info but kept quiet about it while PDR was sharing it with FA. The latter probably didn't make such a big deal of it at the beginning because he thought it's the norm in F1. Than, came the Hungarian GP. When LH refused to let FA pass him, and Alonso responded the way he did in the pit lane, RD decided to seize that moment to get FA in more trouble with the FIA.

5- I believe that during that race, RD blackmailed FA about the emails and the info that PDR shared with him. FA not taking s**t from RD anymore (who's protecting dady's boy LH) responded by telling him to go ahead with it. Unfortunately, FA was not aware that he being set up by RD/PDR. In order to prove to FIA that he has good intentions, RD told MM/BE about FA's emails hoping that the FIA will penalize FA and will drop any investigations against McL. RD's plan didn't work and lost the CWC.

6- One thing that proves that I might be right is the warning that FIA gave about any wrong treatment towards FA. I understand that they need the spanish audience but I guess it's beyond that. I think that BE/MM realized what had happened to FA and were trying to protect him from RD/LH duo.

7- I've come to the conclusion that RD is no honest, innocent man and that LH is no prodigy because he had it easy all along. He is not a fighter/challenger. Circumstances have been in his favor all along.

Now, is there a publisher in the house.
nice idea, but i rekon its a load of rubbish if this were the case why have FA in the team in the first place
#15567
First of all, let me make couple of things clear. I was always a Senna fan. But when FA was beating MS/Ferrari, I had to go with him. As for the teams, McL was always my favorite, although I'm a "driver" kind of fan.

The reason i ask this question is because i'm starting to see things from a different perspective. I'm going to list them in order of relevance:

1- In the past few days LH has been very critical of FA (his arrogance is starting to show) even hoping for him to leave ML. In one interview he said that PDR and himself where trying to make FA feel welcome. Now, why would a rookie want to help a F1 driver with 2 WDC feel comfortable and welcome. I understand the close relationship between RD/LH but he doesn't know everyone else in the team. So he shouldn't be trying to help FA feel ok about McL. The only time you try to make someone feel comfortable and welcomed i when they actually don't feel welcomed. It's the obvious thing.

2- I'm starting to feel that right from the beginning, LH was given special treatment because of RD. Maybe FA shouldn't have made such a big deal out of it, but it could be hard to swallow that unfair treatment and he tried to ask for a better treatment and not a "special one" but RD didn't care about him.

3- Who is the connection between LH and FA? PDR! Now if PDR has a good relationship with LH as the 2 of them where trying to help FA, then why did PDR share the Ferrari info only with FA? I guess that PDR was working along RD to set up FA. Alonso has been very quiet lately, even denying the rift that exists between him and RD/LH and even saying that there is no reason for him to leave McL. Now, if you are the one who betrayed your team, you will feel ashamed about it and would try to leave. Yet, contrary to what RD/LH are saying, FA doesn't seem to be that unhappy.

4- Let's go back to PDR for a moment. My feeling is that FA was set up by McL. Since he moved to the team he must felt unwelcomed because of LH. If I where in his shoes I wouldn't feel that happy either, seeing a rookie being favored over me. It's not about ego, it's about fairness. When the spying saga was revealed, RD tried to use it against FA and here's how. RD allowed PDR to give the info to FA and not LH to incriminate FA before the FIA. Some of you might say well PDR and FA are coutryman and therefore be close. PDR works for McL not FA. RD and LH were aware of the Ferr info but kept quiet about it while PDR was sharing it with FA. The latter probably didn't make such a big deal of it at the beginning because he thought it's the norm in F1. Than, came the Hungarian GP. When LH refused to let FA pass him, and Alonso responded the way he did in the pit lane, RD decided to seize that moment to get FA in more trouble with the FIA.

5- I believe that during that race, RD blackmailed FA about the emails and the info that PDR shared with him. FA not taking s**t from RD anymore (who's protecting dady's boy LH) responded by telling him to go ahead with it. Unfortunately, FA was not aware that he being set up by RD/PDR. In order to prove to FIA that he has good intentions, RD told MM/BE about FA's emails hoping that the FIA will penalize FA and will drop any investigations against McL. RD's plan didn't work and lost the CWC.

6- One thing that proves that I might be right is the warning that FIA gave about any wrong treatment towards FA. I understand that they need the spanish audience but I guess it's beyond that. I think that BE/MM realized what had happened to FA and were trying to protect him from RD/LH duo.

7- I've come to the conclusion that RD is no honest, innocent man and that LH is no prodigy because he had it easy all along. He is not a fighter/challenger. Circumstances have been in his favor all along.

Now, is there a publisher in the house.


90% of what's contained in that post completely belies your username. There are plenty of alternative points you could raise to counter your beliefs. Speculation and supposition of epic proportions.
By supeindesu
#15602
Look at those who insult Dennis about the Dennis-Hamilton Affair on Hungary, everybody is licking his *ss again because he licks Hamilton's too... pathetic.
By ArtHowe
#15605
What is it about the Italians and the Spaniards... they just can't handle being 2nd best without getting their knickers all knotted up? I mean, it's not like they don't both have a long history of being on the losing side! You'd think they might have got used to it by now.
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By racechick
#15614
Sorry Fact Man but that was rubbish. And whats with the "daddy's boy" Alonso's father attends every race with Alonso!
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By cap-dude
#15617
Some people just can't handle that their favourite driver isn't the best out there, so they make crap excuses trying to make it look like the only way he could lose is if someone else is cheating.

My favourite driver right now is Massa, who unfortunatly was put out of the championship race due to reliabilty, but i haven't come out with he desevres to win it because Mclaren gained an Unfair advantage, have I.

No, because in the end one driver has to be better, and in this case Lewis beats Alonso
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By racechick
#15627
:D I like Massa too. He's such an improved driver over last two years. In some races he drives in a class of his own. He and Kimmi make a good driver pairing. They respect each other and play fair. I really hope Ferrari dont drop Massa for Alonso either for 08 or beyond. Alonso will make demands and upset the balance in the team. They are much better of with Massa!
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By texasmr2
#15629
:D I like Massa too. He's such an improved driver over last two years. In some races he drives in a class of his own. He and Kimmi make a good driver pairing. They respect each other and play fair. I really hope Ferrari dont drop Massa for Alonso either for 08 or beyond. Alonso will make demands and upset the balance in the team. They are much better of with Massa!

We definitely see "eye to eye"! :wink:
By Lewisfan
#15646
No team wants Alonso,
1) Alonso black-mailed his team
2) Ron Dennis, paid him £76 million to WIN,
3) McLaren team was fine $100 million, the biggest fine in sporting history

Now tell me what the hell did Lewis do??????????????????????


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By pit_babe
#15670
No team wants Alonso,
1) Alonso black-mailed his team
2) Ron Dennis, paid him £76 million to WIN,
3) McLaren team was fine $100 million, the biggest fine in sporting history

Now tell me what the hell did Lewis do??????????????????????


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For some its enough that he is there, showing the double world champ how to drive in the wet etc
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By McLaren Fan
#15682
:D I like Massa too. He's such an improved driver over last two years. In some races he drives in a class of his own. He and Kimmi make a good driver pairing. They respect each other and play fair. I really hope Ferrari dont drop Massa for Alonso either for 08 or beyond. Alonso will make demands and upset the balance in the team. They are much better of with Massa!

There is no doubt Massa has improved from being an accident waiting to happen to a decent driver, however, he's only decent. His wet-weather skills and general overtaking through the pack are average, and is another wing in a prayer, flash in a pan driver. Any decent driver in a good car can build a lead and stay there in modern Formula One. When Raikkonen is on full form, Massa would never get close to him. Ferrari chose him as he would be a good foil for Schumacher, not good enough and happy to be his tea boy.
By britishtrident
#15697
McLaren bent over backwards to give both drivers the best chance they could.
To understand why you have to understand Ron Dennis, to understand Ron you understand how and who he started with in F1. Ron Dennis learned the F1 trade from two of the most down to earth, square dealing chracters in the history of F1 John Coooper and Sir Jack Brabham.

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