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[bud]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

[Frosty]

It would be hilarious if the Piquets got done for blackmail!!

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I so hope he gets what he deserves!

[McLaren]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

Don't worry if it looks like renault are going to get in trouble, he will show his true colours

[Jensonb]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

There is nothing to suggest Fernando was involved at this time. Innocent until proven guilty.

[bud]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

There is nothing to suggest Fernando was involved at this time. Innocent until proven guilty.

ok i guess a 2x world champ thought he had a chance at some points being light fuelled on a street circuit starting P15. either he is just plain dumb and does what the team tell him, which according to his fans is totally opposite to what he brings to a team, or he knew about it. I dont care for this innocent until proven guilty talk in F1 McLaren never had that luxury.

[scotty]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

So you're basically clutching at straws here to fulfil a personal vendetta against Alonso....

[Jensonb]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

There is nothing to suggest Fernando was involved at this time. Innocent until proven guilty.

ok i guess a 2x world champ thought he had a chance at some points being light fuelled on a street circuit starting P15. either he is just plain dumb and does what the team tell him, which according to his fans is totally opposite to what he brings to a team, or he knew about it. I dont care for this innocent until proven guilty talk in F1 McLaren never had that luxury.

Everything's always about McLaren with you guys.

[Frosty]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

There is nothing to suggest Fernando was involved at this time. Innocent until proven guilty.

ok i guess a 2x world champ thought he had a chance at some points being light fuelled on a street circuit starting P15. either he is just plain dumb and does what the team tell him, which according to his fans is totally opposite to what he brings to a team, or he knew about it. I dont care for this innocent until proven guilty talk in F1 McLaren never had that luxury.

Everything's always about McLaren with you guys.

[al4x]

i heard on radio renault are trying to take the piquets to court!

good, i hope he gets what he deserves, no one will ever hire him a name ruined, a brat caught out, hes a dumb [insert expletive here]

if renault are guilty [which im sure, and hope, they arent] it really will be the end of it for me, but i dont think thats gonna happen

[Gaz]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

There is nothing to suggest Fernando was involved at this time. Innocent until proven guilty.

ok i guess a 2x world champ thought he had a chance at some points being light fuelled on a street circuit starting P15. either he is just plain dumb and does what the team tell him, which according to his fans is totally opposite to what he brings to a team, or he knew about it. I dont care for this innocent until proven guilty talk in F1 McLaren never had that luxury.

Everything's always about McLaren with you guys.

Why you saying "guys" as if bud speaks for all Mclaren fans.

do you want all Mclaren fans to put disclimers in our sigs?

"The Above are my views alone and do not represent the Views of Mclaren™ Mercades™ and the Mclaren™ Fans on this Board"

Oh by the way Bud is correct

[Hanwombat]

i want to hear Alonso's from qualifying. a friend of mine quoted Fernando as saying "Fix the problem"

How's that relevant...?

relevant in being involved in this crash to get him the win. Alonso is not stupid he knew being light from 15th would be worthless unless he knew about this SC. Alonso got away scot free with the spy scandal where he played a part. i dont want to see him get away with no punishment again if he is involved in this one.

There is nothing to suggest Fernando was involved at this time. Innocent until proven guilty.

ok i guess a 2x world champ thought he had a chance at some points being light fuelled on a street circuit starting P15. either he is just plain dumb and does what the team tell him, which according to his fans is totally opposite to what he brings to a team, or he knew about it. I dont care for this innocent until proven guilty talk in F1 McLaren never had that luxury.

Everything's always about McLaren with you guys.

Why you saying "guys" as if bud speaks for all Mclaren fans.

do you want all Mclaren fans to put disclimers in our sigs?

"The Above are my views alone and do not represent the Views of Mclaren™ Mercades™ and the Mclaren™ Fans on this Board"

Oh by the way Bud is correct

[McLaren Fan]

It's pretty difficult not to bring McLaren into matters when only lately the team were involved in some of the biggest political shitstorms Formula One has seen for years. The fact of the matter is precedents were set because of them, but don't look to being carried through now.

[al4x]

thr main reason why i cant believe aany team would do this is how difficult it would be to keep it a secret? someones gonna tell the authorities, but then i suppoose not many people need know? they would have had to count on a safety car, piquet knowing what to do, and when without radio, they would also know NP would come out with it when he was ditched? and piquet himself is ruined whatever the outcome meh

[Frosty]

It's pretty difficult not to bring McLaren into matters when only lately the team were involved in some of the biggest political shitstorms Formula One has seen for years. The fact of the matter is precedents were set because of them, but don't look to being carried through now.

£50 million fine anyone? Also if they are found guilty then they will probably of breached the earlier suspended race ban so they would at the very least get their previous ban enforced + whatever the penalty would be for this whole situation.
[EDIT] Would like to say i hope they are not guilty as it would be a very bad for the sport.

[McLaren Fan]

From autosport.com:

Briatore: Renault did nothing wrong

By Jonathan Noble Friday, September 11th 2009, 16:00 GMT

Renault boss Flavio Briatore has insisted that his team has done nothing wrong amid the Singapore Grand Prix race-fix controversy - after boldly predicting the truth of the matter will come out in public soon.

The flamboyant Italian broke his silence about the accusations made against him at Monza on Friday, as he told a select group of media that his decision to take criminal action against the Piquets was proof about how sure he was his team is innocent of the claims made by Nelson Piquet.

"The fact that we put a plan for blackmail [action] against the two Piquets, means I think we are very confident that the truth will come out," said Briatore.

Renault is to face the FIA's World Motor Sport Council in Paris on September 21 to answer charges that it deliberately caused a crash in last year's Singapore Grand Prix to help Fernando Alonso win.

Speaking about the looming WMSC action, Briatore said: "You know what? Whatever happens, if someone goes against the rules, they go against the rules. If I tell you to go rob a bank – afterwards, you decide whether to rob the bank or not.

"I don't feel I have any responsibility, and we don't feel we have done absolutely anything [wrong]. In the case of Piquet we go to the World Council. But the fact already that we have put a criminal plan to Piquet is because we have enough confidence to be successful - the team and myself."

The matter appears to revolve around an alleged pre-race meeting that took place in Briatore's office hours before that race – where Piquet claims that he was asked to crash early in the race to bring out a safety car.

Briatore declined to comment on the specifics of the events that took place that day, but said he had never known of any occasion where a driver had been asked to crash on purpose to help a team.

"No. Never. Fernando only won the race because Massa had a problem, Kubica had a problem," he said. "There were six or seven problems.

"I think Barrichello stopped in the same place as Piquet. What is possible on lap 14, with 40 laps to go, to determine somebody winning the race? There was another pitstop, another safety car. On lap 14, how is it possible to know what is going to happen?"

Briatore also hit out at the way that details of the evidence against Renault had been leaked to the media – something which he thinks has been damaging for his team and the sport. The FIA has already begun an investigation into identifying who distributed the confidential information.

"The bad press I think was completely unfair - some leaks in the press to accuse somebody before they had the possibility to defend themselves," he said.

"I think this is really not honest, this is really damaging and this really takes the sport in dispute [sic]. We probably don't know where it's coming from, but this takes the sport in dispute [sic] because at the moment it is the accusation about Renault with no possibility for us to defend ourselves, because we respect our word to the FIA.

"We don't want to do any comment and all the comment is around you guys, seeing what is leaked in the press. I don't want to put any comment. I just put, this is making damage for Renault and puts the image of Formula 1 and the sport in dispute.

"All these things, if there is an allegation then you go to the World Council and you discuss in the World Council. You don't need to discuss in front of the public opinion and put 500 people working for the team in this kind of danger."

Briatore also offered some words on how he felt about Piquet, as he said that all he had wanted was for the Brazilian to deliver performance when he raced for the team.

"I feel Nelsinho is a very spoiled guy," he said. "Every time he is racing it is because he owns the team as well. He is very fragile. We tried everything. What you want is only performance."