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#151080
forget shooting in the foot, piquets shot himself in the sodding mouth - it just depends on when he did it.

If he made it up - then hes a very serious liar, no one will trust him. And it shows up his temperent to (which was already known to be weak, even if not malicious.

If its true - then hes admitting he crashed on purpose, :censored::censored: Why would anyteam want someone like that? Hell he only did it because he couldn't keep a place on merit.


why would anyone want to drive for a team that asks you to crash?


no one would, I was referring to piquet himself and how he is already a scumbag - now we're waiting to see whether the team is.
#151083
forget shooting in the foot, piquets shot himself in the sodding mouth - it just depends on when he did it.

If he made it up - then hes a very serious liar, no one will trust him. And it shows up his temperent to (which was already known to be weak, even if not malicious.

If its true - then hes admitting he crashed on purpose, :censored::censored: Why would anyteam want someone like that? Hell he only did it because he couldn't keep a place on merit.


why would anyone want to drive for a team that asks you to crash?


Who knows, but Piquet was happy to drive for them for almost another year, and even then he was sacked! :confused:
#151085
Ouch - this doesn't bode well.
If this turned out to be the truth or near truth, I'd be VERY disappointed of Pat - never thought he'd do such a thing or anything remotely as crooked :(
#151086
Ouch - this doesn't bode well.
If this turned out to be the truth or near truth, I'd be VERY disappointed of Pat - never thought he'd do such a thing or anything remotely as crooked :(


Yeah. To be honest, it's Pat's alleged involvement that means I don't believe this is true. Or is it that I don't want to believe it? :(
#151088
interesting

N/S :yikes: !!!!


:yikes:
Interesting indeed! i hope its not true. But it can very well be true, because his crash was incredibly suspicious....... but again, Nelson's had MANY 'suspicious' crashes; suspicious in the sense that they were silly and some for no aparent reason.

Piquet's F1 career was already pretty much over and done, and it was a grave mistake to even participate in such a scam; but if the arrangement is true... then i'm pretty sure its bybye Renault as well.
:yikes:
#151104
interesting

N/S :yikes: !!!!


:yikes:
Interesting indeed! i hope its not true. But it can very well be true, because his crash was incredibly suspicious....... but again, Nelson's had MANY 'suspicious' crashes; suspicious in the sense that they were silly and some for no aparent reason.

Piquet's F1 career was already pretty much over and done, and it was a grave mistake to even participate in such a scam; but if the arrangement is true... then i'm pretty sure its bybye Renault as well.
:yikes:


And welcome back Sauber under whatever guise! :thumbup:
#151115
thing that gets me about all of this is, why would Flav sack Nelson mid season like that if Flav knew Nelson could just go to the FIA and spill the beans.

Surely if he had this knowledge he could of just said "ok Flav, you sack me first thing i'll do is go to the FIA and tell them the truth about singapoore"

And even if he did threaten that and Flav called his bluff they would of been alot better prepared for it.

But it seams to have caught them unawares.
#151157
If what the Piquets (both father and son) are saying is true, then shame on the Renault team and the Piquets. If its just a cooked up story then shame on the Piquets!
Neither party comes out a winner whichever way this goes, and ultimately F1 has also lost credibility, just as its likely that Renault will want out of F1 rather than be associated with this sort of behaviour.
Who on earth would employ Piquet jnr after this as well? How will Alonso appear after this, and the Maclaren thing. Is it a coincidence....?
Dreadful situation all round.
#151159
If what the Piquets (both father and son) are saying is true, then shame on the Renault team and the Piquets. If its just a cooked up story then shame on the Piquets!
Neither party comes out a winner whichever way this goes, and ultimately F1 has also lost credibility, just as its likely that Renault will want out of F1 rather than be associated with this sort of behaviour.
Who on earth would employ Piquet jnr after this as well? How will Alonso appear after this, and the Maclaren thing. Is it a coincidence....?
Dreadful situation all round.


i dont understand this at all. well any team that is honest and wouldnt cause anything like this would hire him; its not a normal situation is it. If you dont want him snitching, then dont give him anything to snitch about.
#151160
I can't believe Pat was involved. i used to know him ages ago. If Piquet was being asked to do that sort of s*** no wonder he didnt drive too well!! Scumbags! (If its true...and that sounds very plausable)

EDIT And I cant believe Alonso wasnt aware!He seems to cause poo in all the teams he drives for. WATCH OUT FERRARI !!
#151170
When this is over...

I see no Renault Avatars or Signatures from you now, only a hourglass are these symbolic gestures about your current feelings toward Renault?
#151174
When this is over...

I see no Renault Avatars or Signatures from you now, only a hourglass are these symbolic gestures about your current feelings toward Renault?


I've had no Renault avatars or signatures up on my profile for a while - even before all of this.

Interesting though, I suppose how my life is moving at the moment is quite similiar to Renault's plight. Time is ticking away.
#151182
I can't believe Pat was involved. i used to know him ages ago. If Piquet was being asked to do that sort of s*** no wonder he didnt drive too well!! Scumbags! (If its true...and that sounds very plausable)

EDIT And I can believe Alonso wasnt aware!He seems to cause poo in all the teams he drives for. WATCH OUT FERRARI !!



Jealous again? or just scared of his move to ferrari... :yikes:
#151190
Here's the letter:

I, Nelson Angelo Piquet, born July 25, 1985 in Heidelberg, Germany... say as follows:

1. Except as otherwise stated, the facts and statements contained in this Statement are based on facts and matters within my knowledge. I believe such facts and statements contained in this Statement to be true and correct. Where any facts or statements are not within my own knowledge, they are true to the best of my knowledge and belief and, where appropriate, I indicate the source of that knowledge and belief.

2. I make this Statement voluntarily to the FIA and for the purposes of allowing the FIA to exercise its supervisory and regulatory functions with regard to the FIA Formula One World Championship.

3. I am aware that there is a duty upon all participants in the FIA Formula One World Championship and all Super Licence holders to ensure the fairness and legitimacy of the Championship and I am aware that serious consequences could follow if I were to provide the FIA with any false or misleading statement.

4. I understand that my complete statement has been recorded on audio tape and that a full transcript of my audio recording will be made available to me and the FIA. The present document constitutes a summary of the main points made during my full oral statement.

5. I wish to bring the following facts to the FIA's attention.

6. During the Formula One Grand Prix of Singapore, held on 28 September 2008 and counting towards the 2008 FIA Formula One World Championship, I was asked by Mr. Flavio Briatore, who is both my manager and the Team Principal of the ING Renault F1 Team, and by Mr. Pat Symonds, the Technical Director of the Renault F1 Team, to deliberately crash my car in order to positively influence the performance of the ING Renault F1 Team at the event in question. I agreed to this proposal and caused my car to hit a wall and crash during lap thirteen/fourteen of the race.

7. The proposal to deliberately cause an accident was made to me shortly before the race took place, when I was summoned by Mr. Briatore and Mr. Symonds in Mr. Briatore's office. Mr. Symonds, in the presence of Mr. Briatore, asked me if I would be willing to sacrifice my race for the team by "causing a safety car". Every F1 race driver knows that the safety car is deployed on a track when there is an accident which leads to the track being blocked either by debris or a stationary car, and where it is difficult to recover a damaged car, as was the case here.

8. At the time of this conversation I was in a very fragile and emotional state of mind. This state of mind was brought about by intense stress due to the fact that Mr. Briatore had refused to inform me of whether or not my driver's contract would be renewed for the next racing year (2009), as is customarily the case in the middle of the year (around July or August). Instead, Mr. Briatore repeatedly requested me to sign an "option", which meant that I was not allowed to negotiate with any other teams in the meantime. He would repeatedly put pressure on me to prolong the option I had signed, and would regularly summon me into his office to discuss these renewals, even on racing days - a moment which should be a moment of concentration and relaxation before the race. This stress was accentuated by the fact that during the Formula One Grand Prix of Singapore I had qualified sixteenth on the grid, so I was very insecure about my future at the Renault team. When I was asked to crash my car and cause a safety car incident in order to help the team, I accepted because I hoped that it could improve my position within the team at this critical time in the race season. At no point was I told by anyone that by agreeing to cause an incident, I would be guaranteed a renewal of my contract or any other advantage. However, in the context, I thought that it would be helpful in achieving this goal. I therefore agreed to cause the incident.

9. After the meeting with Mr. Symonds and Mr. Briatore, Mr. Symonds took me aside to a quiet corner and, using a map, pointed me to the exact corner of the track where I should crash. This corner was selected because the specific location of the track did not have any cranes that would allow a damaged car to be swiftly lifted off the track, nor did it have any side entrances to the track, which would allow a Safety Marshall to quickly move the damaged car away from the track. Therefore, it was felt that a crash in this specific position would be nearly certain to cause an obstruction on the track which would thus necessitate the deployment of a safety car in order to allow the track to be cleared and to ensure the safe continuation of the race.

10. Mr. Symonds also told me which exact lap to cause the incident upon, so that a strategy could deployed for my team-mate Mr. Fernando Alonso to refuel at the pit shortly before the deployment of the safety car, which he indeed did during lap twelve. The key to this strategy resided in the fact that the near-knowledge that the safety car would be deployed in lap thirteen/fourteen allowed the Team to start Mr. Alonso's car with an aggressive fuel strategy using a light car containing enough fuel to arrive at lap twelve, but not much more. This would allow Mr. Alonso to overtake as many (heavier) cars as possible, knowing that those cars would have difficulty catching up with him later in the race due to the later deployment of the safety car. This strategy was successful and Mr. Alonso won the 2008 Formula One Grand Prix of Singapore.

11. During these discussions, no mention was made of any concerns with respect to the security implications of this strategy, either for myself, the public or other drivers. The only comment made in this context was one by Mr. Pat Symonds who warned me to “be careful”, which I took to mean that I should not injure myself.

12. I intentionally caused the crash by letting go of control of the car just before the relevant corner. In order to make sure I would cause the incident during the correct lap, I asked my team several times via the radio to confirm the lap number, which I would not normally do. I was not injured during the accident, nor was anyone else.

13. After the discussions with Mr. Briatore and Mr. Symonds discussed above, the 'accident strategy' was never discussed again with either of them. Mr. Briatore discreetly said "thank you" after the end of the race, without mentioning anything further. I do not know if anyone else was aware of this strategy at the start of the race.

14. After the race I informed Mr. Felipe Vargas, a family friend and advisor, of the fact that the incident had been deliberate. Mr. Vargas further infirmed my father, Mr. Nelson Piquet, some time later.

15. After the race several journalists asked questions about the accident and asked me whether I had caused it on purpose, because they felt it was 'suspicious'.

16. In my own team, the engineer of my car questioned the nature of the incident because he found it unusual, and I replied that I had lost control of the car. I believe that a clever engineer would notice from the car's telemetry that I caused the incident on purpose as I continued accelerating, whereas a "normal" reaction would be to brake as soon as possible.

Statement of Truth

I believe and swear that the facts set out in this statement are true.

This statement was made at the FIA Headquarters in Paris on 30 July 2009 in presence of Mr. Alan Donnelly (FIA Chairman of the Stewards), Mr. Martin Smith and Mr. Jacob Marsh (both of investigations firm Quest, retained by the FIA to assist with its investigation). Notes were taken by Ms. Domenique Costesec (Sidley Austin LLP).

Signed:

Nelson Piquet Jr.
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