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Oversteer is when the rear wheels slide out wide relative to the fronts, so it doesn't work like that...
well yeah what scotty said is what youre saying, if the rear wheels slide out while the fronts dont, then that means the fronts have more grip than the rear doesnt it?
well yeah what scotty said is what youre saying, if the rear wheels slide out while the fronts dont, then that means the fronts have more grip than the rear doesnt it?
yeah, i figured we were saying the same thing, just joe 90 told me it didn't work like that, so was trying to clarify!
i'm just trying to establish if its something the driver can control? when they complain about over steer i just wonder if its because they committed too much to a corner or if its purely an effect of the car.
oversteer can be controlled, infact some corners its essential to get the car/kart on an oversteer enduced angle for better exit speed.
If understeer is the inability of a car to take a corner by running wide, why can't oversteer be controlled by putting less of an angle into the wheel? DO I make sense? I wonder sometimes.
oversteer can be controlled, infact some corners its essential to get the car/kart on an oversteer enduced angle for better exit speed.
i Love rally-style cornering on kartsIf understeer is the inability of a car to take a corner by running wide, why can't oversteer be controlled by putting less of an angle into the wheel? DO I make sense? I wonder sometimes.
Well, if the driver put less of an angle he wouldn't be able to make the turn, or he would drift from the ideal line. Unless he goes slower, and we don't want that!
Ok now I'm getting confused.
Ok now I'm getting confused.
You asked (unless i mis-understood!) why the drivers dont change the angle of turning to avoid oversteering.
The reason they dont change the angle is to keep the 'line'. What they have to do is find a balance (set up) that allows them to keep the line at the fastest speed possible, without having understeer/oversteer.
Ok now I'm getting confused.
You asked (unless i mis-understood!) why the drivers dont change the angle of turning to avoid oversteering.
The reason they dont change the angle is to keep the 'line'. What they have to do is find a balance (set up) that allows them to keep the line at the fastest speed possible, without having understeer/oversteer.
But if they are oversteering shouldn't they change the angle of steering to compensate and therefore keep on the line?
Ok now I'm getting confused.
You asked (unless i mis-understood!) why the drivers dont change the angle of turning to avoid oversteering.
The reason they dont change the angle is to keep the 'line'. What they have to do is find a balance (set up) that allows them to keep the line at the fastest speed possible, without having understeer/oversteer.
But if they are oversteering shouldn't they change the angle of steering to compensate and therefore keep on the line?
If they have to adjust, then they already have a problem. That's the point, they should not need to adjust steering mid-way through the corner to correct oversteer.
Ok now I'm getting confused.
You asked (unless i mis-understood!) why the drivers dont change the angle of turning to avoid oversteering.
The reason they dont change the angle is to keep the 'line'. What they have to do is find a balance (set up) that allows them to keep the line at the fastest speed possible, without having understeer/oversteer.
But if they are oversteering shouldn't they change the angle of steering to compensate and therefore keep on the line?
well yeah what scotty said is what youre saying, if the rear wheels slide out while the fronts dont, then that means the fronts have more grip than the rear doesnt it?
yeah, i figured we were saying the same thing, just joe 90 told me it didn't work like that, so was trying to clarify!
i'm just trying to establish if its something the driver can control? when they complain about over steer i just wonder if its because they committed too much to a corner or if its purely an effect of the car.
yeah it can be controlled, like i said sometimes you want it to oversteer to get better exit speed. It can be from the setup then or from the characteristics of the car itself or even like you said a driver goes in too hot and loses the rear end.
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