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[Selcouth_Feline]

Ah - i rember doom on the n64 - although only some of it since I didn't have the expansion pack and it was when i rented games from blockbuster.

N64? Pah, some of us still have their NES attached to their TV. None of this fancy new console malarkey

I actually have Doom on my DS, although you have to play with the D-pad rather than the pen, which is a bit of a pain.

Has anyone seen any Quake servers not hosted by QuakeLive yet? Would be good to have a Formula1.net Quake session. Played online with Longbow last night which was fun (despite being fragged repeatedly!)

[Jensonb]

To be honest, anybody who goes out thinking that they need a dual-core CPU and 2GB of RAM is still aiming too high, in my opinion.

only for really high end computing and gaming.

optimization of the OS is better a idea.

Hence, get a Mac because Mac OS is the most optimised OS there is.

And Snow Leopard redoubles that optimisation for the low, low price of $29

[scotty]

My username is scottykamikaze or kamikazescotty, i forget which, but i'd be well up for some kind of forumula1 deathmatch.

[Denthúl]

So...if you already have Leopard...you still have to pay for Snow Leopard?

[EwanM]

What the hell is this game? I was deprived as a child.

[Jensonb]

So...if you already have Leopard...you still have to pay for Snow Leopard?

Leopard is OS X 10.5, Snow Leopard is 10.6. It is the next major OS X release. And it is being offered at substantially reduced cost to Leopard users ($29) for two reasons. First, because it is essentially a "tune up" release - it has lots of changes but they are all under the hood, performance-related tweaks. Secondly, to encourage as many users as possible to upgrade as using the latest version is always desirable for the developer.

Think of it like the Vista to Windows 7 transition except at a fraction of the cost and with both versions being great OSs

[Denthúl]

So...if you already have Leopard...you still have to pay for Snow Leopard?

Leopard is OS X 10.5, Snow Leopard is 10.6. It is the next major OS X release. And it is being offered at substantially reduced cost to Leopard users ($29) for two reasons. First, because it is essentially a "tune up" release - it has lots of changes but they are all under the hood, performance-related tweaks. Secondly, to encourage as many users as possible to upgrade as using the latest version is always desirable for the developer.

Think of it like the Vista to Windows 7 transition except at a fraction of the cost and with both versions being great OSs

I don't believe that Windows 7 should cost anything to Vista users, to be honest. It's more like a refinement service pack than a new release - the same as Snow Leopard looks from the list of features shown on Apple's website. I wouldn't call it a major release in either case. In the same way that Intrepid Ibex (8.10) was only a minor update to Hardy Heron (8.04) in the Ubuntu world. Jaunty Jackalope (9.04) was a bigger release, in that it offered Ext4 (but not as the default file system), but still not a 'major' one in my eyes.

Major releases would be the difference between Windows NT from Windows 9x, OS X from OS 9 and Debian 5.0 from Debian 4.0 (or a derivative distribution changing its base distribution, i.e. going from Debian to Ubuntu (though that isn't huge, since Ubuntu was derived from Debian in the first place) or on a bigger scale, moving from a Debian-based system to a Red Hat- or Mandriva-based system). :S

This discussion will never end purely because our views on software (and licensing and open- or closed-source) are always going to be different.

[Jensonb]

I don't believe that Windows 7 should cost anything to Vista users, to be honest. It's more like a refinement service pack than a new release - the same as Snow Leopard looks from the list of features shown on Apple's website. I wouldn't call it a major release in either case. In the same way that Intrepid Ibex (8.10) was only a minor update to Hardy Heron (8.04) in the Ubuntu world. Jaunty Jackalope (9.04) was a bigger release, in that it offered Ext4 (but not as the default file system), but still not a 'major' one in my eyes.

Major releases would be the difference between Windows NT from Windows 9x, OS X from OS 9 and Debian 5.0 from Debian 4.0 (or a derivative distribution changing its base distribution, i.e. going from Debian to Ubuntu (though that isn't huge, since Ubuntu was derived from Debian in the first place) or on a bigger scale, moving from a Debian-based system to a Red Hat- or Mandriva-based system). :S

This discussion will never end purely because our views on software (and licensing and open- or closed-source) are always going to be different.

A Major Release is defined by the developer at their own discretion. OS X 10.6 is an under-the-hood re-write of OS X's performance subsystems, and adds new features to make OS X run faster and more efficiently - in the forms of Grand Central Dispatch and OpenCL. Furthermore, it expands 64-Bit support, allows true End-to-End 64-Bit running and features re-writes of all the major Apps included with an OS X install (Bar iTunes*, for legacy reasons) in 64-Bit Cocoa forms.

Whether it seems it from a casual observation or not, Snow Leopard is a major release. Leopard set the new Base for OS X's features and UI. Snow Leopard is aimed at refining how the next generation of OS X releases function at a lower level. A lot of thought and development work went into it.

Windows 7 is a user-facing upgrade to Vista, refining the User experience and making some minor changes under the hood to improve performance, and in some cases leaving the code be to improve compatability. It also has changes to improve reliability. The Kernel code has only seen a .1 upgrade, but the user-level upgrade is significant. It too is undeniably a major release. It has the first true improvement to Microsoft's "Taskbar" User Interface Element ever issued (Previously, only tweaks have been added).

*Our hope and understanding is that a Cocoa 64-Bit iTunes for (At the very least) Snow Leopard will be issued as part of the iTunes 9 upgrade expected sometime in September.