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[Jabberwocky]

Anyone think it is good or bad?

I think it could be a good idea but there has to be specific rules on the 3rd car.

3rd car must be driven by a rookie, who has completed less than 20 F1 races. Problems like changing driver in the middle of the season to the 1st/2nd will not be such a problem because drivers will of done some milage.

3rd Car will not be classified in the world championship. But will be awarded points in seperate rookie championship.

3rd car has to try and run a full race distance on friday practice for at least the first 5 grand prix's as a 3rd driver. So that 3rd car drivers gains experience. (only exceptions is if car brakes or gets broken)

The 3rd car is not to be used to evaluate part. Unless the parts are also run on 1st/2nd car

[Gaz]

the one thing F1 needs is less omplicated rules.

[darwin dali]

Anyone think it is good or bad?

I think it could be a good idea but there has to be specific rules on the 3rd car.

3rd car must be driven by a rookie, who has completed less than 20 F1 races. Problems like changing driver in the middle of the season to the 1st/2nd will not be such a problem because drivers will of done some milage.

3rd Car will not be classified in the world championship. But will be awarded points in seperate rookie championship.

3rd car has to try and run a full race distance on friday practice for at least the first 5 grand prix's as a 3rd driver. So that 3rd car drivers gains experience. (only exceptions is if car brakes or gets broken)

The 3rd car is not to be used to evaluate part. Unless the parts are also run on 1st/2nd car

Opening a can of worms with too many loopholes. Also, paddock space is an issue. Plus, I hate to see the quality of drivers diluted and then get even more back markers having an impact on the outcome of races.

[al4x]

bad idea, more cost

[myownalias]

I think that it's a bad idea. 39 cars, 26 grid slots, not enough garages (are Ferrari and McLaren going to share?). Back to pre-qualifying? teams traveling to each Grand Prix only for none of their cars to make it into the final 26. Again it's Ferrari that want to change the rules to suit their own needs, e.g. to have Schumacher in a third car, Montezemolo needs to either drop Raikkonen or Massa to accommodate Schumacher, not have a change of rules.

I really hope that the FIA don't agree to changing the rules in favour of three cars, It'll scream of Ferrari International Assistance if it happens!

[Hanwombat]

NO NO NO

[Jabberwocky]

I did not think all teams will turn up with 3 cars, Maybe just the top 4 teams that is why I was on about not letting the 3rd car be used for testing. as the was an unfair advantage to the top teams.

8x2 + 4x3 = 30 cars.

I do not think it will dilute the driving quality, in fact I think it will bring it up as at the moment with no testing allowed, "young guns" have no way of getting experience. this way they can do it in a pressure free enviroment

[darwin dali]

I did not think all teams will turn up with 3 cars, Maybe just the top 4 teams that is why I was on about not letting the 3rd car be used for testing. as the was an unfair advantage to the top teams.

8x2 + 4x3 = 30 cars.

I do not think it will dilute the driving quality, in fact I think it will bring it up as at the moment with no testing allowed, "young guns" have no way of getting experience. this way they can do it in a pressure free enviroment

Me thinks a GP is quite a lot of pressure

[kezza7]

I did not think all teams will turn up with 3 cars, Maybe just the top 4 teams that is why I was on about not letting the 3rd car be used for testing. as the was an unfair advantage to the top teams.

8x2 + 4x3 = 30 cars.

I do not think it will dilute the driving quality, in fact I think it will bring it up as at the moment with no testing allowed, "young guns" have no way of getting experience. this way they can do it in a pressure free enviroment

Me thinks a GP is quite a lot of pressure

Alot of pressure, but alot of experience at the same time, and in my opinion the more cars, the more racing, the more excitement for the fans, even if it is for 546th place

[Jensonb]

I think it's a stupid idea. Why do it now, when the grid is finally going to be full anyway?

[McLaren Fan]

I think the two-car system works well enough for everybody involved. Aside from blooding in some rookies, I don't see other significant benefits teams would gain from running three cars. Moreover, surely it would make things much more complicated for teams looking to manage their drivers. If all three of a team's drivers were eligible to score points, would they, for instance, have one main driver and two others there to support him? And, if Jabberwocky's ideas were implemented, what value would the rookie drivers' title have? Not a lot, I would imagine, as most of the teams are going to give priority to their main driver(s), and would probably use their work experience boy to mess up their rival teams' strategies, so the value of the proper drivers' title and the constructors' title could be at stake, as the trophy could end up going to somebody other than the worthy winners.

Then, from a logistics point of view, I really don't see it working. Most Formula One circuits are not suited to take thirty nine Grand Prix cars going around at once. The old 107 per cent rule would not be adequate to sort out who starts the race, so a pre-qualifying session would certainly be required - completely undermining the whole point of having three cars per team anyway. And, even if we set that aside, how would things be done for the prestigous Monaco Grand Prix? There, only twenty four cars can partake in the race, so not all of the teams will be able to reap the benefits of the Grand Prix (i.e., bundles of sponsorship money).

Deserving a paragraph of its own, three car teams could only create monopolies of duopolies in Formula One. Hypothetically speaking, let's say Ferrari and McLaren were the two dominant teams when the three-car system is introduced. Ferrari and McLaren would hog all of the top spots on the time sheets, grid and final classification. And, as Ferrari and McLaren would be the only ones competing for wins and podiums for the most part, they would monopolise pretty much all of the media coverage, thus getting the lions' share of the sponsorship money.

To me, this seems like Ferrari coming up with an idea to suit their own needs. Evidently, Schumacher has got bored of watching television everyday, and Ferrari could do with him back again. If one did not consider the above, it seems to me, that apart from some of the Tifosi, the only people who would support such a hair-brained plan would be somebody who wishes to see the big teams maintain their superiority in Formula One and to crush the smaller teams in the process.

[headless]

I can see attractions of it and it is great giving young drivers experience.,
But the rest of the topic contributors have clearly pissd on the strawberries!!
Especially McLarenFan.
Very good points made, well written out argument

I initially liked it...

[darwin dali]

I can see attractions of it and it is great giving young drivers experience.,
But the rest of the topic contributors have clearly pissd on the strawberries!!
Especially McLarenFan.
Very good points made, well written out argument

I initially liked it...

Yeah, I always go for the strawberries, those red mofos are useless!

[bud]

I think it would be a good thing if the grid had a mass exudus of teams but considering 3 new teams are entering there is no need for it. Its only been brought up because Luca had another brain fart and wants Schumi back. there is no logic behind his statement.

[texasmr2]

Very well put as always McLaren Fan .