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[darwin dali]

Seems to me that you told her she should get her High School diploma before she expressed an opinion. You told me to suck another posters "sausage", which obviously probably alienated the other poster as well as me. And all this on a single thread. All of a sudden you have aggravated three people... on a single thread. Perhaps you thrive on confrontation, if so, don't be surprised at the reception your posts will elicit.

Most people join the forum to share opinions and ideas. It's essentially a social arena, not the Colliseum!

That comment was related to another thread (see link below) where Pitbabe barged in
"your own IQ dont seem as high as that, dont question mine my uni has allready checked it"
So it's not just what you see on the surface.
And you conveniently forget who insulted whom first in our little spat:

ArtHowe wrote:
Perhaps Mercedes stance simply indicates that they understand the truth of the situation, unlike people like you Dali, who run around screaming the sky is falling at the drop of a hat and who, seemingly have a disposition inclined towards Obsessive Compulsive Disorder once they have managed to mount a hobby-horse.


whatever - get a brain and suck Fact-Man's sausage - the two of you make a very nice couple.

And similarly, if you'd want to actually investigate first before you accuse me of insulting others, here's the Fact_Man thread where he insults me first:
http://www.forumula1.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1650

And if you like to be associated with him, then go ahead and continue to post in his style.

[Fact Man]

You are definitely right DD. That's why in that thread, your first reply to me was

"Congrats, with all these distractions from the real issues you graduated to

Bargaining stage: Seeking in vain for a way out."

Now you don't call that an insult. Actually, you've been going around insulting many people with you psychology stuff. Give it a break already!

[darwin dali]

Jean Todt New Book Series
I just found this out. It seems he's going to be busy with his job at Ferrari.
The first book is an autobiography titled "The Cheater" in which he explains his life as a cheater.
The second one is "The Bender". Here, he approaches the topic of how to bend F1 rules to your advantage and win GPs and Championships off the track or in the pit lane.
The third is the "Art of Cheating without Getting Caught: How to Get the FIA in Your Pocket". This book will take his cheating principles to the next level. Here, we learn how to cheat and bend and lie and still get away with it.
The last book of the series is titled "A Glimpse in the Minds of 2 Giants: Bernie & Max, Their Deep Pockets and Love Affair with Ferrari." Here, the discussion revolves around the idea of buying the FIA heads by massive contributions to their pockets which will help you have more of your own people on the board.
It's going to be a very interesting reading.


And you think this your post was anything but trying to weasel out of the cheating issues McLaren has and trying to turn things around and attack the victim? Trying to claim: "But they did cheat too! They did it first! So, it was nothing what McLaren did compared to them!"

I.e., Bargaining stage: Seeking in vain for a way out."

That's besides the fact that this your post was insulting on so many levels.


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[ArtHowe]

There is no association whatsoever between Factman and myself but I do find your high-handed attitude to others offensive. Others seem to agree that you are overly aggressive. I haven't been a member of the forum nearly as long as you have, neither have many of the others, but that does not give you carte blanche to either insult their intelligence or demean them or arrogantly suggest that their opinions are driven by some sort of nebulous A/B/C psychological process that you happen to subscribe to.

I believe Pit Babe when she says she's beautiful, I don't need a photograph. Nobody has seen verification of your Ph.D. but I don't see anyone demanding proof.


In short... chill out... the McLaren/ Ferrari episode is history and life is sweet again... it's on the track.

[darwin dali]

I sure hope you subscribe to what you just said yourself. I'll be reminding you of it if appropriate.

I have noticed an influx lately of posters that flood the forum with anti-Ferrari and pro-McLaren posts in a style I don't appreciate and find insulting. When I feel offended I reserve the right to retaliate - if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen and stop the flaming or it comes back to you.

BTW: I don't think the spy saga is over and done by a long shot.

[Fact Man]

Jean Todt New Book Series
I just found this out. It seems he's going to be busy with his job at Ferrari.
The first book is an autobiography titled "The Cheater" in which he explains his life as a cheater.
The second one is "The Bender". Here, he approaches the topic of how to bend F1 rules to your advantage and win GPs and Championships off the track or in the pit lane.
The third is the "Art of Cheating without Getting Caught: How to Get the FIA in Your Pocket". This book will take his cheating principles to the next level. Here, we learn how to cheat and bend and lie and still get away with it.
The last book of the series is titled "A Glimpse in the Minds of 2 Giants: Bernie & Max, Their Deep Pockets and Love Affair with Ferrari." Here, the discussion revolves around the idea of buying the FIA heads by massive contributions to their pockets which will help you have more of your own people on the board.
It's going to be a very interesting reading.


And you think this your post was anything but trying to weasel out of the cheating issues McLaren has and trying to turn things around and attack the victim? Trying to claim: "But they did cheat too! They did it first! So, it was nothing what McLaren did compared to them!"

I.e., Bargaining stage: Seeking in vain for a way out."

That's besides the fact that this your post was insulting on so many levels.


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Dude, if you want to talk about my post and my opinion, it's fine with me. Since when we can't say whatever we want about other teams/drivers. I didn't insult you personally, I was talking about Todt. You have been calling Mclaren, the McCheaters. That's your right but I didn't insult because I don't agree with you. This issue is over. Get it over already

[ArtHowe]

...When I feel offended I reserve the right to retaliate - if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen and stop the flaming or it comes back to you...

Oh, I can stand your heat DD, make no mistake about that. In the meantime I agree that there are still residual issues in this lamentable affair, such as Alonso's tenure at McLaren. But the verdict is in, McLaren have eaten it, Ferrari is happy and Mosely is rubbing his hands. Regarding any "flaming" issues, you are the only poster who has suggested that other posters should "suck ... sausage".

Anyway, if we are calling a ceasefire, I'm happy to do that. So long as there are no more "sausage" incidents and providing that you don't persist in publicly allocating people with contrary opinions to your own to some third rate academic's psychological pigeon hole.

[darwin dali]

I agree that was over the top and when you look at my posts you rarely ever find any such language or it is in jest.

Ferrari is not happy as JT is not so secretly hoping that McLaren appeal the verdict and get a harder sentence incl. their participation in the drivers championship out of such an appeal. He therefore also refuses to accept the constructors title as of yet because of a potential appeal. RD would be well advised not to appeal - after reading the entire FIA statement McLaren got away fairly lightly and that's not just my opinion.
The one who's rubbing his hands is BE: he pushed for a financial fine rather than banning the drivers as well. Money in his coffers, the show goes on and thus people still watching F1 and paying, more so even because there's no bad publicity in his view, just publicity for F1 and lots of it with this affair - good for his business again.

[Fact Man]

But I read somewhere that although the FIA is done with the espionage thing, the italian police are still after McLaren/PDR/FA. If RD doesn't appeal, is Ferrari going to drop their charges. Would MM & BE ask ferrari to do so. This way everyone can move on.

[darwin dali]

The FIA is by no means done with the spy affair. There are far looming stipulations for McLaren in the verdict with respect to even next season.
McLaren would like that to happen - accept the verdict in exchange for Ferrari staying off their back and stop the legal court cases. Ferrari/JT doesn't seem to be willing to do that, not the least because they think McLaren's drivers should have been taken out of competition as well.
Plus Ferrari HAS to go after Stepney for damages via the courts since there's no one else doing it for them.

The only way I see this affair closing any time soon would be the unlikely scenario that both, FA and LH decide that it would be unfair to pursue this year's championship any further after all that has happened and that they therefore withdraw from competition to do the honorable thing. Fat chance though for this to ever happen, especially in FA's case: he'd rather sell his own grandmother to achieve his goals.