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[McLaren Fan]

Even if Schumacher was using GP2 slicks, he was still flying very close to the wind. The FIA are right to be concerned. FOTA and the FIA should now be concerned about Schumacher getting a go in the F60.

But then again if they are GP2 slicks then he hasn't broken any rules, has he? No matter how unsporting a decision it was.

Whether he's broken any rules or not depends on how much the GP2 slicks resemble Formula One slicks. But that is not entirely the point, as many people have (had) sympathy for Ferrari and they were expecting people to trust them to allow Schumacher to get to grips with the F60. Sadly, Ferrari have shown they can't be trusted. After arguing in favour of Schumacher getting a go in the F60, I'm now against it. By all means, the FIA still need to change the rules on this matter, but Ferrari should not have the current arrangements altered for them.

[Amanda]

Nothing's changed then, Ferrari and Schumacher...still cheating

[Denthúl]

Of course, the alternative to running them was, you know...F1 slicks.

[EwanM]

Even if Schumacher was using GP2 slicks, he was still flying very close to the wind. The FIA are right to be concerned. FOTA and the FIA should now be concerned about Schumacher getting a go in the F60.

But then again if they are GP2 slicks then he hasn't broken any rules, has he? No matter how unsporting a decision it was.

Whether he's broken any rules or not depends on how much the GP2 slicks resemble Formula One slicks. But that is not entirely the point, as many people have (had) sympathy for Ferrari and they were expecting people to trust them to allow Schumacher to get to grips with the F60. Sadly, Ferrari have shown they can't be trusted. After arguing in favour of Schumacher getting a go in the F60, I'm now against it. By all means, the FIA still need to change the rules on this matter, but Ferrari should not have the current arrangements altered for them.

I'm still unsure about it to be honest, if they are stretching their "gentlemen's agreement" then it should be monitored closely. However I sincerely doubt that the FIA have enough time to, or will bother to change the rules. Sadly we can't compare Ferrari with other teams, such is the randomness of this situation.

At the same time, if Michael had "for the hell of it" decided to test the F2007 with the GP2 slicks, whilst having no intention to enter the sport, then nothing would have been said.

FOTA is already on the rocks, if they can't trust Ferrari or stike a compromise over Schumacher, then it really is failing.

This is what I warned about time and time again when the breakaway series was threatened. Letting the teams run their own series was a stupid idea because they would never be 100% frank with each other. Think of this latest controversy and multiply that by 100.... They are all competitive animals and of course they are going to bend the rules. (Thank god for the Concorde Agreement)

I still think that a straight line test is sufficient.

[Gaz]

Nothing's changed then, Ferrari and Schumacher...still cheating

Ferrari, Schumacher - Cheats?

Never!

- seriously though what a silly thing to do when appealing to FOTA/FIA to have testing restrictions lifted.

[Frosty]

As long as it's within the rules i don't see any problems with it.

[Denthúl]

As long as it's within the rules i don't see any problems with it.

As far as I can see, it is. The car is not from this season, it wasn't (technically) run by the Ferrari team and the tyres used were not this season's F1 tyres.

[bud]

Great he can still drive no need to test the f60 now! Friday practice is plenty of time to get your head around kers

[texasmr2]

Ferrari, Schumacher - Cheats?

Never!

Hey your team is no angel either but that seem's to always be conviently forgotten .

seriously though what a silly thing to do when appealing to FOTA/FIA to have testing restrictions lifted.

Once again refer to my earlier post concerning this for my and others opinions. You and others constantly posting how Lewis is going to 'clean' Michaels 'clock' on track so what are you all on about? I think your scared to be honest .

Of course, the alternative to running them was, you know...F1 slicks.

NS!!

[myownalias]

This situation arose because of lax FIA rules; if they were a ship; it would have sunk a long time ago. If the FIA rules said that only registered test/reserve drivers can drive during the current season then this whole controversy wouldn't have come up! I'm not going as far as saying Ferrari are cheats but they do tend to bend the rules to the max.

[texasmr2]

Ferrari only asked as it is FOTA who has agreed 100% to allow this testing, I thought we all wanted the same thing and that is for the team's to have more say so? Anywho I'm just voicing my opinion as everyone else is and even if Michael does not win a race or score points the situation is still a win/win proposition for F1 as a whole. My only issue really is WHY OH WHY do we have to wait so long for the next race ?????

tex

ps,
Oh yah I almost forgot I like stirring my mate Longbow's pot aswell !

[bud]

Of course, the alternative to running them was, you know...F1 slicks.

Na there's the old grooved tyres then there's inters,

[Fact Man]

I have a feeling that MS will not race for Ferrari. This whole thing with MS return is to divert attention from having another driver joining the team.
KR has openly suggested that he is ready to move to WRC on a full time basis. So it makes more sense to bring a driver who will stick around for the next year or two along with Massa (hoping for a full recovery and return to F1).
MS return will create more interest in F1 for the short term but Ferrari should be thinking about next year in case Massa can't come back and KR decided to quit.
Anyway, it is just a thought.

[texasmr2]

I think Valencia is a done deal but after that who knows?

[Denthúl]

Of course, the alternative to running them was, you know...F1 slicks.

Na there's the old grooved tyres then there's inters,

Old grooved tyres which Bridgestone no longer make, you mean? And if they had run inters, they would still have gained data from current-spec tyres. Running the GP2 tyres was the only option here.