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#138811
I understand that rules are rules; in fact, it's arguably the best argument in this debate. In thinking a little about it, could it not be that the rules are the problem? Ferrari have been hit by unforeseen circumstances, so could a day's testing not be allowed for situations like this?


At the same time it shows how rushed-through the ban on testing was, by the FIA and the teams. Surely with the brainpower amongst the teams, somebody would have said "hey what do we do in this instance? or that?"

But they didn't which is another failure of Formula One. Ferrari shouldn't need to look for special dispensation, the rules SHOULD have arrangements already in place.
#138813
Nine times out of ten, every political storm in the sport is created by either the rules lacking conciseness or not being enforced at all times.

Think of how much easier it would be if, for once, the rules were enforces regularly and any "black holes" were filled.
#138815
We agree on that. The next question, then, is, in light of the above, whether or not Schumacher should be allowed a day's testing in the 2009 car and that discussions should start on refining the rules, or whether the rules should be refined for the future (i.e., Schumacher is not allowed to test before the European Grand Prix).
#138824
I think he needs the days testing to get his super licence

h): (exceptionally), has a record of results which is judged
suffi cient, unanimously, by the Bureau of the Formula One
Commission and has driven at least 300 km in a current Formula
One car at racing speeds, over a maximum period of 2 days,
certifi ed by the ASN of the country in which the test took place.
Only results obtained with single-seater formula cars will be taken
into consideration. Should the members of the Bureau not agree
unanimously, the Commission in its entirety will be consulted.
In this case, the complete application must be received by the FIA
at least 14 days before scrutineering for the fi rst FIA Formula One
World Championship event in which the candidate is to compete


http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/ ... ix_L_a.pdf
#138825
I'd give it to him. I think driver-injury is something I would consider an "exceptional circumstance" (whereas firing a driver because your have relationship issues is not). I think a compromise could be reached; Ferrari would have to test exactly the car that they used in Hungary. They wouldn't be allowed to alter any of the components used on the car to test the performance. Of course, this would (should?) then mean that any team that was thrust in to the same situation later in the year would automatically be granted the same opportunity.
#138836
I'd give it to him. I think driver-injury is something I would consider an "exceptional circumstance" (whereas firing a driver because your have relationship issues is not). I think a compromise could be reached; Ferrari would have to test exactly the car that they used in Hungary. They wouldn't be allowed to alter any of the components used on the car to test the performance. Of course, this would (should?) then mean that any team that was thrust in to the same situation later in the year would automatically be granted the same opportunity.


However is there any part in the rule that adquately covers "exceptional circumstances"?

Personally i'm in two minds about this. Schumacher shouldn't be an exception to the rule, however this is a a bit of a freak-situation. It depends really.
#138860
I'd give it to him. I think driver-injury is something I would consider an "exceptional circumstance" (whereas firing a driver because your have relationship issues is not). I think a compromise could be reached; Ferrari would have to test exactly the car that they used in Hungary. They wouldn't be allowed to alter any of the components used on the car to test the performance. Of course, this would (should?) then mean that any team that was thrust in to the same situation later in the year would automatically be granted the same opportunity.


However is there any part in the rule that adquately covers "exceptional circumstances"?

Personally i'm in two minds about this. Schumacher shouldn't be an exception to the rule, however this is a a bit of a freak-situation. It depends really.


I don't know. But it's not just a Schumacher thing; I'd say yes to any driver replacing one who had been injured.

What I think should happen is that situations like this should be considered. The testing ban was poorly thought-out. :/
#138863
I'd give it to him. I think driver-injury is something I would consider an "exceptional circumstance" (whereas firing a driver because your have relationship issues is not). I think a compromise could be reached; Ferrari would have to test exactly the car that they used in Hungary. They wouldn't be allowed to alter any of the components used on the car to test the performance. Of course, this would (should?) then mean that any team that was thrust in to the same situation later in the year would automatically be granted the same opportunity.


However is there any part in the rule that adquately covers "exceptional circumstances"?

Personally i'm in two minds about this. Schumacher shouldn't be an exception to the rule, however this is a a bit of a freak-situation. It depends really.


I don't know. But it's not just a Schumacher thing; I'd say yes to any driver replacing one who had been injured.

What I think should happen is that situations like this should be considered. The testing ban was poorly thought-out. :/


Yup as i said above. As are most of FOTA's current proposals.
#138880
Huh? I'm only stating my own opinion.

Sorry I was only having a laugh, I should of smilied it.
Seriously annoying how one way of saying something can be taken the opposite way when it is text!
(again with that, it may have sounded like a dig but clearly wasn't)
#138888
Im sorry but if Schumacher needs a days testing then he isnt the man for the job. Get someone that doesnt to replace Massa.


Initially, this was my exact reaction. Screw him if he's not ready to go. Thinking about it though, I think perhaps for the sake of safety, MS should be allowed at least 1 test session, maybe half a day or so. I wouldn't have extended the same to STR because, as mentioned it was their choice to replace Bourdais with 2 Million Euros.
They simply should not have been allowed to run a driver with no experience, period. IMHO
#138895
but c'mon its Schumacher proclaimed greatest driver ever, he should not need a test session to learn how to use KERS. :hehe:


not like its hard anyway

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