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[Amanda]

Fangio really was amazing when you look at the stats

[headless]

Fangio really was amazing when you look at the stats

Even when you dont!

[onelapdown]

Those statistics amaze me to say the least. I can't believe Alonso is in the bottom 5 for errors. It strikes me as odd that any of the modern drivers would have a better error record than the guys in the 50s and 60s who were leaving a much greater margin because of the tracks and how dangerous accidents were.

Also people moan about Schumacher having the best car, well at least he was part of the reason his car was so good, Fangio jumped teams every time a better car came around.

To be fair to Fangio, He drove for Alfa Romeo first until they left the sport, then after a period at Maserati moved to Mercedes until they left, then couldn't stand Ferrari so went back to Maserati. So put it like that and he only actually jumped teams twice voluntarily. And I do believe that ultimately the best drivers tend to get the opportunity to drive the best cars, whether they do or not is up to them.

p.s. interestingly, of all the multiple champions Senna has the worst error record. 16.77% is worse than Nakajima (13.79) and Fisichella(14.41), and only slightly better than Bourdais (18.52). It's also slightly worse than Nelson Piquet Sr (15.20). However, I think it's worth mentioning that for many years when Senna was racing only a fraction of race scores counted, so perhaps he was gambling more to get the fullest use of the points system.

[Big Azza]

Wow, man this is the most fantastic statistic I've ever seen. It really puts all of our drivers into perspective. It also changes my opinion of Alonso. Slightly albeit.

[headless]

Wow, man this is the most fantastic statistic I've ever seen. It really puts all of our drivers into perspective. It also changes my opinion of Alonso. Slightly albeit.

In what way?

[kingpinsam]

interesting statistics

if you wanted, you could factor in the constructors chapionship for each particular year, and add a weightage factor to increase the value of good results in cars that didn't dominate the constructors championship that year.

[EwanM]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

[headless]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

[EwanM]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

Indeed, but he did better than most with his year at Minardi.

[headless]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

Indeed, but he did better than most with his year at Minardi.

Yeah but not better than these 2 years.

[EwanM]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

Indeed, but he did better than most with his year at Minardi.

Yeah but not better than these 2 years.

Yeah, but at the same time he didn't have the same expectations. At the same time though, Alonso did wonders in that Minardi, like he has with Renault this year.

[headless]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

Indeed, but he did better than most with his year at Minardi.

Yeah but not better than these 2 years.

Yeah, but at the same time he didn't have the same expectations. At the same time though, Alonso did wonders in that Minardi, like he has with Renault this year.

Yeah but expectations are accounted for in stats.
Look at us, for once we are talking properley about F1

[EwanM]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

Indeed, but he did better than most with his year at Minardi.

Yeah but not better than these 2 years.

Yeah, but at the same time he didn't have the same expectations. At the same time though, Alonso did wonders in that Minardi, like he has with Renault this year.

Yeah but expectations are accounted for in stats.
Look at us, for once we are talking properley about F1

Not to slant the achievements of Alonso or say Hamilton, but they are slighly aided by the favourable points system atm.

Hey we always talk properly about F1

[headless]

Alonso's records would be stronger if it hadn't been for these 2 years.

Or while in Minardi?

Indeed, but he did better than most with his year at Minardi.

Yeah but not better than these 2 years.

Yeah, but at the same time he didn't have the same expectations. At the same time though, Alonso did wonders in that Minardi, like he has with Renault this year.

Yeah but expectations are accounted for in stats.
Look at us, for once we are talking properley about F1

Not to slant the achievements of Alonso or say Hamilton, but they are slighly aided by the favourable points system atm.

Hey we always talk properly about F1

Yeah, I mean when Alonso started didn't you have to get 6th to get points.
I know when Webber was in the Minardi you did.
Australian GP, Webber, Minardi. epic.

[EwanM]

Indeed so.