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By EwanM
#138574
It does make you wonder what might happen to some of the team after this season...
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#138583
:(


Bad year for F1.


I think it's a good year. :)

In regards to BMW pulling out, I don't care. :yawn:

I've never really given a stuff about the team, and I'm not prepared to do so now. I don't even give a stuff about the drivers. I just wan't to see who replaces them.


Thank you for not considering the seven or eight hundred people who may have no jobs after the end of the year. Your view is most appreciated.



Yeah.

arse


These guys won't lose their jobs. They are qualified pit mechanics etc, in which one of the new teams will greatly snap up. Not a worry.

Sauber have never looked like they would compete for a championship, and they never will. I would, however, like to see Mr. Sauber take on a Cosworth engine, but if he doesn't want to stick it out despite being rich and having 700 people's jobs on the line, then that just gives me an even better reason to keep on disrespecting the team.

It's funny, you ask me to list all of the teams in Formula One. I always forget Sauber. Why? Because it's a useless middle-order team that has gone neither forwards or backwards. :rolleyes:

That said, my deepest sympathy (although it seems like I don't have a heart) goes out to their fans, and any failed team pulling out of Formula One is a sad moment indeed.

I feel sorry for Heidfeld who may never get a Formula One win, despite consistently finishing in the points. His story is better than Webber's in my opinion - and he is the new Chris Amon.

BMW really shouldn't quit. Look at Williams - they have more reason to quit than Sauber - who've actually won a race in the last year - but they are actually sticking it out. In my opinion BMW should've tried harder. But this team seem to never have tried hard enough, so why should they try now? Like I said - stuff'em! :irked:



I dont think I've ever read such trash before. You dont like the team because they were a mid field team?? I would expect nothing less from a glory hunter. :rolleyes:
#138587
No - they are a mid-field team who don't appear to try hard enough.

Williams appear to always be pushing, so do Toyota. So did Red Bull - look at them now. So did Brawn. The only highlight from BMW was that special 1-2 from Montreal. Otherwise the team have not done anything special in the last couple of years in my opinion.

Torro Rosso are constantly pushing for points - and they got a memorable victory from it. This season they have a few points, which is good to see, because in my opinion that is the second-worse car on the grid, and they are constantly in the top 10 with rookie drivers. BMW seem to have resorted to being the last caar on the grid, although in theory that car should be the 6th best car there. :) Better than Toyota, better than Williams, better than Torro Rosso, and certainly better than Force India.

So what are they going to do for the rest of the season? Are they going to remain at the back, or are trhey going to give me something to remember them by?
#138612
No matter what the actual reason for BMW's pull out it does look like they pulled out because they have been trounced this season especially after last season's high! BMW have been on the F1 recession casualty list since the start of the season. I personally predicted that BMW would pull out at the end of the season along with Toyota (which remains to be seen at this time), after John Howett's vocalism in the whole dispute it will be highly hypocritical if they do indeed pull out!
#138622
These guys won't lose their jobs. They are qualified pit mechanics etc, in which one of the new teams will greatly snap up. Not a worry.


Some of them might be snapped up, but you have to remember that over the next few years teams will be shrinking due to cost-cutting efforts.

Sauber have never looked like they would compete for a championship, and they never will. I would, however, like to see Mr. Sauber take on a Cosworth engine, but if he doesn't want to stick it out despite being rich and having 700 people's jobs on the line, then that just gives me an even better reason to keep on disrespecting the team.


I wouldn't exactly call Peter Sauber rich when it comes to talking about Formula One (where certain teams spend up to four hundred million per year) and the reason he sold the team to BMW in the first place was so that he could guarantee a future for all of his employees!

It's funny, you ask me to list all of the teams in Formula One. I always forget Sauber. Why? Because it's a useless middle-order team that has gone neither forwards or backwards. :rolleyes:


I'm sorry, have you been watching anything other than red and silver cars for the past few years..?
#138629
. The only highlight from BMW was that special 1-2 from Montreal. Otherwise the team have not done anything special in the last couple of years in my opinion.


Erm... challenging for the 2008 title?????????
:confused:

Although I bet now they wish they didn't give up going for it. :banghead:
#138631
I still have a BMW Williams top. I supported them when Damon drove for Williams. I liked them best then. And they did well then. Didnt like it when they dumped Damon though :irked: But that was Williams not BMW.
#138818
I still have a BMW Williams top. I supported them when Damon drove for Williams. I liked them best then. And they did well then. Didnt like it when they dumped Damon though:irked: But that was Williams not BMW.

When they ditched Damon I went off Williams, but then forgave them and started liking them when JV and Frentzen buggered off and Zanardi came in along with Ralf (who was ok back then).

BMW will probably look back and wish they had stuck with Williams and had been more patient with them, I think Sir Frank had every right to stand up to them and say "no" to them taking over.
#139090
Sauber working on team rescue deal

By Simon Strang and Dieter Rencken Saturday, August 1st 2009, 16:04 GMT

Peter SauberFormer team principal Peter Sauber is believed to be working alongside BMW motorsport director Mario Theissen to secure a rescue package for the BMW Sauber Formula 1 team, following the German manufacturer's decision to withdraw from the sport at the end of the season.

Sauber, who sold the team in 2005 to BMW following more than 25 years as a racing car constructor in F1 and sports prototypes, told a hastily convened press conference in Switzerland that he had vowed to do all he could to save the jobs of his former employees.

"I will do everything humanly possible," Sauber was quoted on Bild's website as saying. "I can't do wonders and I certainly do not want to be team boss on the pitwall again.

"The problem is that time is short and we need to find a solution quickly."

Citing a similar situation to the one faced by Honda, where Ross Brawn and Nick Fry brought together a financial deal to safe-keep what became the Brawn GP team, Sauber said the final decision remained with BMW's board of directors.

"I've told all my people that I will use all my contacts, but I can't guarantee anything. I am an advisor to BMW but ultimately only they can decide how to drive it forward."

Sauber told the press conference that offers of investment had already been received for a potential rescue package and that he had forwarded these to BMW.

"The best solution would be a Ross Brawn-type solution at Honda," he said. "You need at least ten years to amass a team which can produce a F1 car to the level required and if we let this team fall apart the chances are that Switzerland will never again have such an opportunity."

Sauber, who retains a 20 per cent shareholding in the team, remained confident a solution could be found to keep the Hinwil-based squad in F1, adding: "I must add that in my 17 years in F1 I have solved bigger problems."


Good that he and BMW are working to find a solution. Hopefully the team will be saved. :)
#139104
If a rescue deal is found, I would really like to see the team revert back to just Sauber, just like in the good old days. :)
#139110
If a rescue deal is found, I would really like to see the team revert back to just Sauber, just like in the good old days. :)

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