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#136217
Denthúl wrote:
EwmanM wrote:And i'm not speaking of blind faith here (like some), I'm being realistic. 4th or 5th.
A KERS car could help him get third ;)
Yup. :wink: Fingers crossed.
#136221
EwmanM wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
EwmanM wrote:And i'm not speaking of blind faith here (like some), I'm being realistic. 4th or 5th.
A KERS car could help him get third ;)
Yup. :wink: Fingers crossed.
thats a big ask even for somone as skilled as Alonso.
#136223
Well with those weights I think McLaren are looking very good if Lewis or HK can get past the Red Bulls with Alonso being so light they should be past him on the pit stops.
#136255
In my opinion, the battle tommorrow for the win is between Vettel and Webber, and that will all depend on who gets the best start. The thing is, Vettel starts 2nd, and it's so dusty there, Webber is likely to take Vettel of the start.

Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany. Lets not forget Rosberg as well. Quite a bit more fuel on that Williams, so I'd be watching out for him during the race.

Anyway, my prediction
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Rosberg
4. Alonso
5. Hamilton
6. Button
7. Kovalinen
8. Nakajima
#136274
cap-dude wrote: Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany.
I expect he will pass Vettel considering that they are both on the dirty side of the grid they both will have traction problems off the line. I really don't get how the track being dirty is really going to effect KERS anyway considering your not allowed to use KERS until a couple of seconds after the start and by that point you will no longer be traction limited.
#136278
Frosty wrote:
cap-dude wrote: Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany.
I expect he will pass Vettel considering that they are both on the dirty side of the grid they both will have traction problems off the line. I really don't get how the track being dirty is really going to effect KERS anyway considering your not allowed to use KERS until a couple of seconds after the start and by that point you will no longer be traction limited.
It will take you longer to reach the point where you are not traction-limited, though, meaning people ahead of you have reached a higher speed before your extra power kicks in.
#136287
Denthúl wrote:
Frosty wrote:
cap-dude wrote: Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany.
I expect he will pass Vettel considering that they are both on the dirty side of the grid they both will have traction problems off the line. I really don't get how the track being dirty is really going to effect KERS anyway considering your not allowed to use KERS until a couple of seconds after the start and by that point you will no longer be traction limited.
It will take you longer to reach the point where you are not traction-limited, though, meaning people ahead of you have reached a higher speed before your extra power kicks in.
I agree with that but if Vettel is also on the dirty side wont he have the same problem?
#136288
Frosty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
Frosty wrote:
cap-dude wrote: Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany.
I expect he will pass Vettel considering that they are both on the dirty side of the grid they both will have traction problems off the line. I really don't get how the track being dirty is really going to effect KERS anyway considering your not allowed to use KERS until a couple of seconds after the start and by that point you will no longer be traction limited.
It will take you longer to reach the point where you are not traction-limited, though, meaning people ahead of you have reached a higher speed before your extra power kicks in.
I agree with that but if Vettel is also on the dirty side wont he have the same problem?
He will. I could see Hamilton getting past Vettel, but Webber might be able to defend by the point he catches him. Of course, if the Red Bulls both make good enough starts to jump Alonso, then it makes things easier for them.
#136291
Denthúl wrote:
Frosty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
Frosty wrote:
cap-dude wrote: Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany.
I expect he will pass Vettel considering that they are both on the dirty side of the grid they both will have traction problems off the line. I really don't get how the track being dirty is really going to effect KERS anyway considering your not allowed to use KERS until a couple of seconds after the start and by that point you will no longer be traction limited.
It will take you longer to reach the point where you are not traction-limited, though, meaning people ahead of you have reached a higher speed before your extra power kicks in.
I agree with that but if Vettel is also on the dirty side wont he have the same problem?
He will. I could see Hamilton getting past Vettel, but Webber might be able to defend by the point he catches him. Of course, if the Red Bulls both make good enough starts to jump Alonso, then it makes things easier for them.
If the 3 of them have any sense they will get together and attempt to "block" the kers cars.
#136296
EwmanM wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
Frosty wrote:
Denthúl wrote:
Frosty wrote:
cap-dude wrote: Lewis also starts on the dirty side, so I wouldn't expect him to make up the places he did in Germany.
I expect he will pass Vettel considering that they are both on the dirty side of the grid they both will have traction problems off the line. I really don't get how the track being dirty is really going to effect KERS anyway considering your not allowed to use KERS until a couple of seconds after the start and by that point you will no longer be traction limited.
It will take you longer to reach the point where you are not traction-limited, though, meaning people ahead of you have reached a higher speed before your extra power kicks in.
I agree with that but if Vettel is also on the dirty side wont he have the same problem?
He will. I could see Hamilton getting past Vettel, but Webber might be able to defend by the point he catches him. Of course, if the Red Bulls both make good enough starts to jump Alonso, then it makes things easier for them.
If the 3 of them have any sense they will get together and attempt to "block" the kers cars.
It'd be a good idea. Certainly, Horner could instruct Vettel and Webber to do their best to retain a top-three place for both cars until the first lap chaos is over, then go racing. I think Webber and Alonso are old enough and wise enough to have a good go at defending from Hamilton. Vettel is the big question mark - could he try something a little bit risky? I remember, during his fight with Button at Turkey, thinking that he might do something to take the pair of them out >.<
#136298
I think Alonso so will make a clean getaway, Vettel will get bogged down on the dirty side and is forced to defend from Webber as those two fight Lewis and HK surprise them :P ?
#136309
Unless Barrichello gets off the line well tomorrow he could get stuck behind the Trulli train all afternoon.
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