FORUMula1.com

[darwin dali]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76402" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where's Williams?

[cap-dude]

No surprises to be frankly honest. KERS is useless.

Not one team, not even McLaren, has run it at every race. The only time this year it will be helpful will be at Spa and Monza. It'll be good riddance to KERS next year.

[myownalias]

KERS is a redundant technology now in Formula 1; maybe Williams have decided to shelve it as well after all the teams have effectively canned it. It hasn't added anything apart from allowing the KERS enabled cars to block faster cars because of the acceleration boost; it's being used more like launch control in my opinion!

[Rivelution]

Shows how useless kers is, and bmw were the ones who wanted it the most this year!

[richindarlo]

I always said KERS was donna die out quickly. yeah the straight line speed blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, it was dangerous, expensive and heavy. its benefits rarely outweighed its negatives (literally!)
it wont be back, and if it is, then all teams should have it as a disadvantage, but i ask anyone defending the costs and use of KERS, does Brawn GP use it?

[scotty]

I always said KERS was donna die out quickly. yeah the straight line speed blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, it was dangerous, expensive and heavy. its benefits rarely outweighed its negatives (literally!)
it wont be back, and if it is, then all teams should have it as a disadvantage, but i ask anyone defending the costs and use of KERS, does Brawn GP use it?

To (sort of) answer your post, i don't think the example of Brawn is relevant, basically because KERS wasn't brought in to increase outright performance. It's intentions were good in theory and occasionally on paper, and it could have killed two birds with one stone in some ways - improving F1's green credentials and increasing overtaking - yet it failed. Why? Very simply because like the BMW guys say: it wasn't mandatory from the start!

At least the technology has been transferred to general road car use, any ways to save a little more of the precious fossil fuels are good by me, i don't want to be forced into driving some dull electric/hybird!

[Hanwombat]

Woo!

Kers are useless! A waste!

[Stealthgate007]

I always said KERS was donna die out quickly. yeah the straight line speed blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, it was dangerous, expensive and heavy. its benefits rarely outweighed its negatives (literally!)
it wont be back, and if it is, then all teams should have it as a disadvantage, but i ask anyone defending the costs and use of KERS, does Brawn GP use it?

To (sort of) answer your post, i don't think the example of Brawn is relevant, basically because KERS wasn't brought in to increase outright performance. It's intentions were good in theory and occasionally on paper, and it could have killed two birds with one stone in some ways - improving F1's green credentials and increasing overtaking - yet it failed. Why? Very simply because like the BMW guys say: it wasn't mandatory from the start!

At least the technology has been transferred to general road car use, any ways to save a little more of the precious fossil fuels are good by me, i don't want to be forced into driving some dull electric/hybird!

I wonder if we can point to this as a reason Ferrari and McLaren had bad starts to this year. A car out of the box that is a second slower in the beginning than the rest of the field due to the weight. And then mucking up the balance and design trying to remove it.. It could be the reason why Macca can't get a grip on the performance of the rear end. (no pun intended)

[darwin dali]

Woo!

Kers are useless! A waste!

Your new avatar Is it getting too Warm in ster??

[Gaz]

wonder if they'll have revised body work soon then?

this is what a two teir championship would of almost been like also the KERS cars have been pretty poor this year apart from certain tracks would have simlar situation with two teir only much worse.

[Hanwombat]

Woo!

Kers are useless! A waste!

Your new avatar Is it getting too Warm in ster??

Like my doggy ?

[Red Baron M3]

It doesn't matter. BMW is doing bad with or without it. They need to get rid of some people at BMW Sauber along with the KERS. Sorry, but I am very frustrated with the team, but I still have hopes.

[Red Baron M3]

wonder if they'll have revised body work soon then?

this is what a two teir championship would of almost been like also the KERS cars have been pretty poor this year apart from certain tracks would have simlar situation with two teir only much worse.

Yes, they are working again on new body work. =(

[Hexagram]

Basically KERS wasn't brought in to increase outright performance. It's intentions were good in theory and occasionally on paper, and it could have killed two birds with one stone in some ways - improving F1's green credentials and increasing overtaking - yet it failed. Why? Very simply because like the BMW guys say: it wasn't mandatory from the start!

The mandatory bit there is key. If everyone was suppose to have it, it might have actually been developed better. Also if there wasn't sweeping regulation changes on the aerodynamics front on the cars more time could have been spent on getting KERS right.

As far as I can see there are two ways the FIA can go on the KERS thing, make it mandatory or ban it.

I wonder if we can point to this as a reason Ferrari and McLaren had bad starts to this year. A car out of the box that is a second slower in the beginning than the rest of the field due to the weight. And then mucking up the balance and design trying to remove it.. It could be the reason why Macca can't get a grip on the performance of the rear end.

An interesting point... Although the R29 is suppose to be the lightest car on the grid that was designed with KERS in mind and hell appears to handle like a tractor at the min.

[7UpJordan]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76402

Where's Williams?

They're still working on perfecting their flywheel and are planning to use it at races where the unit won't affect the balance of the car, so I'm thinking it'll be at Monza, Valenci-yawn, Singapore and Abu Dhabi. They're working on the battery system at the same time too, but would prefer to use the flywheel system.