Alonso feels unrewarded by McLaren

Re: Alonso feels unrewarded by McLaren#12755

By Selcouth_Feline - 25 Aug 07, 19:48

- 25 Aug 07, 19:48#12755

"When I arrived in December, I remember the car I drove; I remember the results they had in 2006. And now, you know, I brought to the team half a second, six tenths, whatever, and I don't see anything giving me back.

Mmm hmm....and the decrease in lap times has *absolutely nothing* to do with all the work that the mechanics, designers and everyone else in the McLaren team have done.....

#12758

By racechick - 25 Aug 07, 19:53

- 25 Aug 07, 19:53#12758

Yes think Alonso might have pissed a few people off with that comment. Not very clever!

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
Abe Lincoln

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln

#12759

By 7UpJordan - 25 Aug 07, 20:00

- 25 Aug 07, 20:00#12759

The reason why Alonso's "not getting anything back" is because of his pathetic childish attitude. If he didn't have his stupid paranoid tantrums over "Hamilton's getting preferential treatment" and "banging wheels" with Massa and then his "delay Hamilton" tactics, he might have got something back from the team.

"And Mansell was lucky not to be taken off by that RIDICULOUS bit of driving by Alliot!!" - James Hunt
"AAAAAND into the pitlane..... OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Murray Walker

#12769

By pole-sitter - 26 Aug 07, 03:31

- 26 Aug 07, 03:31#12769

This (Alonso) could have been Schumacher a few years ago if Ferrari had only employed drivers instead of assistants! :shock:

#12858

By stonemonkey - 27 Aug 07, 20:27

- 27 Aug 07, 20:27#12858

You have it all wrong, when Alonso joined Mclaren he spent the first few days tinkering around in the back of the car with a spanner and found over half a second. I can understand his annoyancies fully when the engineers and design guys try to take some of the credit for that.

#12869

By Clarkey3262 - 27 Aug 07, 22:46

- 27 Aug 07, 22:46#12869

*First post*
I have 1 question (for the moment) and it hardly seems worthy of a thread so here it is:

How do a team define a Number 1 driver and Number 2 driver by the way it treats each driver? I mean the way FA is saying LH is getting preferential(sp) treatment? This has me somewhat confused

#12870

By darwin dali - 27 Aug 07, 22:55

- 27 Aug 07, 22:55#12870

There are many ways a team can prioritize a number one driver, among them are: always first choice in quali/race strategy incl. fuel loads, timing of pitstops, etc., no passing by teammate ever, even being let by if behind number two (can also be done during pitstops to make it less obvious), first dips for new parts/engines, etc., better pitcrew/mechanics, etc., 'help' on track from the number two driver (holding up the competition)...

Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point.

#12871

By cap-dude - 28 Aug 07, 08:57

- 28 Aug 07, 08:57#12871

^^i think thats what happened in France.
in a race, the leading driver should get the prime pit stop, meaning they pit second.
But in france they took felipe in first from the lead, and sent him out behind traffic, allowing kimi to take a win, despite massa clearly being the faster on that day.

WOW#12930

By thebiggman - 29 Aug 07, 22:42

- 29 Aug 07, 22:42#12930

He's crying again ! :cry:

He needs to stop all of this crying and moaning and get on with his job. Go out there and win the championship and beat Lewis,.....thats if he can! :lol:

#12932

By Lewisfan - 30 Aug 07, 06:57

- 30 Aug 07, 06:57#12932

Alonso comments are a huge insult to the 1000 McLaren mechanics, designers, etc. Mclaren was winning world chapionships when Alonso wasn't even born. What a egocentric, selfish, mean person alonso is. If Lewis can't win the WDC I hope Massa or Kimi pick up the WDC.

#12938

By 7UpJordan - 30 Aug 07, 16:54

- 30 Aug 07, 16:54#12938

Niki Lauda has got it spot on about Alonso;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 964547.stm

"And Mansell was lucky not to be taken off by that RIDICULOUS bit of driving by Alliot!!" - James Hunt
"AAAAAND into the pitlane..... OHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!" - Murray Walker

#12953

By Phil.T.Ho - 31 Aug 07, 15:23

- 31 Aug 07, 15:23#12953

Look at what's happened at Renault without him, look at what's happened at McLaren with him.

A double world champion brings status to a team as well.

It's interesting how a driver get's a couple of notches in his belt in F1 and his every word and move is criticized.

hes seems to be getting criticised on here a lot by people who seem obviously to know more than he does himself about the situation at McLaren, so i just read themm and laugh!!!!1....i wonder what they will be saying if he ends up world champion again this year!!!!!

#12954

By Phil.T.Ho - 31 Aug 07, 15:28

- 31 Aug 07, 15:28#12954

Alonso comments are a huge insult to the 1000 McLaren mechanics, designers, etc. Mclaren was winning world chapionships when Alonso wasn't even born. What a egocentric, selfish, mean person alonso is. If Lewis can't win the WDC I hope Massa or Kimi pick up the WDC.

2006...McLaren....NO WINS.......Alonso to McLaren for 2007....now they lead both championships!!!!! draw your own conclusions FROM THE FACTS!!!!!!....rocket science it aint!!!!!

#12955

By darwin dali - 31 Aug 07, 15:35

- 31 Aug 07, 15:35#12955

Alonso comments are a huge insult to the 1000 McLaren mechanics, designers, etc. Mclaren was winning world chapionships when Alonso wasn't even born. What a egocentric, selfish, mean person alonso is. If Lewis can't win the WDC I hope Massa or Kimi pick up the WDC.
2006...McLaren....NO WINS.......Alonso to McLaren for 2007....now they lead both championships!!!!! draw your own conclusions FROM THE FACTS!!!!!!....rocket science it aint!!!!!

What a simplistic view you've got. How do you survive out there in real life? :roll: