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[internos2k]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

[racechick]

Absolutely, Thays where it should be fought out, on the track. No whinging and special treatment, just fair racing. Its very close . Could be either guy. It may be down purely to racing but reliability could play a part so we will have to wait and see.Not bad tho for a rookie to be spooking a TWO TIME WORLD CHAMPION!!!

[internos2k]

Absolutely, Thays where it should be fought out, on the track. No whinging and special treatment, just fair racing. Its very close . Could be either guy. It may be down purely to racing but reliability could play a part so we will have to wait and see.Not bad tho for a rookie to be spooking a TWO TIME WORLD CHAMPION!!!

[welshie]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

Now I like that, very sidewards!

[internos2k]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

Now I like that, very sidewards!

Maybe i'm a little british, maybe not., any way i admire your fair play. I Love the races, i dislike discussion in front of the fia, i find simply disgusting a decision who says taht mclaren cannot collect point in a fair race. PLZ, beat us on the track an everyone will sleep peacefully.

[bmwpower]

Christ, you guys are still debating??

[welshie]

Christ, you guys are still debating??

No I just like the vid I gave up debating ages ago, am waiting for the next race so there will be something new to talk about . . . . . snore!

[aboldero]

The core of the decision that eventually emerged was as follows:

The team were asked to explain why having indicated to Hamilton that he must stop at his pit on the next lap, they then informed Alonso whilst he was still on the track that when he also pitted on the next lap he would be held for 20 seconds.

The team stated that they frequently give estimates as to duration of pit stop to their drivers before they pit and that the reason the car was in fact held for 20 seconds was that it was being counted down prior to release at a beneficial time regard being given to other cars on the track.

Alonso was asked why he waited for some 10 seconds before leaving the pits after being given the signal to leave. His response was that he was enquiring as to whether the correct set of tyres had been fitted to his car. When asked why this conversation did not take place during the 20 second period when his car sat stationary all work on it having been completed, it was stated that it was not possible to communicate by radio because of the countdown being given to him.

Reference to the circuit map shows that at the time Alonso was told he would be held for 20 seconds there were but 4 cars on the circuit, his own and those of Fisichella, Hamilton and Raikkonen. All but Raikkonen entered the pits such that there can have been no necessity to keep Alonso in the pits for 20 seconds waiting for a convenient gap in traffic in which to leave.

The explanation given by Alonso as to why at the expiration of the 20 second period he remained in his pit stop position for a further 10 seconds is not accepted. The Stewards find that he unnecessarily impeded another driver, Hamilton, and as a result he will be penalised by a loss of 5 grid positions.

The explanation given by the team as to why they kept Alonso stationary for 20 seconds after completion of his tyre change and therefore delayed Hamilton's own pit stop is not accepted.

[Phil.T.Ho]

I hope kimmi beats him too(and I don't even like ferrari)

That was my feeling during the race. For the 1st time ever, I wanted a ferrari to win. but I do disagree with you on who's at fault. Aparently, it was LH who caused this whole thing. So I think LH should have been penalized too. If we consider the stewards ruling that team strategies don't allow for blocking you teamate -assuming that's the case- during qualifications, then not obeying team orders should also be considered illegal (that's why I believe this whole thing is ridiculous).

wow...sorry racechick...i read this message days ago, but now with the benefit of hindsight , we all realize what a beautiful and exact post mis as regrd to what unfolded over the weekend!!!!!

[Phil.T.Ho]

mis should read...this is....sorry, had a few beers

[bud]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

Now I like that, very sidewards!

thats a gutsy move! awesome!

[ferraribird]

I think Ferrari are missing Ross Braun.

As for the who did what to who and boo hoo, let's face it, if you want to win you're going to do whatever it takes. However, not being fazed by having to come from a lower starting position to win/keep your points up is what shows your quality. So let's see some quality driving and less of the "I can't win if I don't start on the front row".

[madbrad]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

The Battling Brazillians!
What Senna could do with that crappy Lotus was breathtaking and confounding.

[7UpJordan]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

The Battling Brazillians!
What Senna could do with that crappy Lotus was breathtaking and confounding.

Aye, Lotus were on their 12 year death-bed when Colin Chapman died, the F1 team ran seperately from Lotus cars which of course still exists, so will we ever see Lotus return to F1?

[welshie]

The best overtaking ever,for me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNJOSntzE4

The Battling Brazillians!
What Senna could do with that crappy Lotus was breathtaking and confounding.

Aye, Lotus were on their 12 year death-bed when Colin Chapman died, the F1 team ran seperately from Lotus cars which of course still exists, so will we ever see Lotus return to F1?

Nah they are much better as a consultancy firm, being an F1 firm would just tarnish their reputation now . . . cuz they would be poo