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[f1ea]

But, I think that the only reason why people are looking at evolution is to disprove God's existence, and then they can disprove the Bible. Then they can carry on with their immoral lives that the Bible clearly objects.

absolutely nonsense!

[welshie]

Ida fascinates me. Well to be more precise the bone in her ankle fascinates me as it shows the ability to walk upright, which is key in evolutionary terms.

[Dutchcruijff]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

[scotty]

If we're gonna have this whole never ending science vs. religion debate, please keep it relatively friendly people!

[darwin dali]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

If you believe that the Earth is flat and somebody points out it's not, but you keep adhering to your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe that there are unicorns and somebody points out the likelihood is slim to nil that they exist, but you insist on believing in them, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe in superstition and fairy tales dating back a few thousand years that make you argue that Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with humans and somebody points out that science clearly refutes such a notion, but you remain adamant about your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.

[bud]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

If you believe that the Earth is flat and somebody points out it's not, but you keep adhering to your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe that there are unicorns and somebody points out the likelihood is slim to nil that they exist, but you insist on believing in them, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe in superstition and fairy tales dating back a few thousand years that make you argue that Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with humans and somebody points out that science clearly refutes such a notion, but you remain adamant about your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.

couldnt have put it better myself

[Dutchcruijff]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

If you believe that the Earth is flat and somebody points out it's not, but you keep adhering to your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe that there are unicorns and somebody points out the likelihood is slim to nil that they exist, but you insist on believing in them, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe in superstition and fairy tales dating back a few thousand years that make you argue that Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with humans and somebody points out that science clearly refutes such a notion, but you remain adamant about your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.

Does it make you any better to ridicule someone else's belief?

[darwin dali]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

If you believe that the Earth is flat and somebody points out it's not, but you keep adhering to your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe that there are unicorns and somebody points out the likelihood is slim to nil that they exist, but you insist on believing in them, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe in superstition and fairy tales dating back a few thousand years that make you argue that Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with humans and somebody points out that science clearly refutes such a notion, but you remain adamant about your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.

Does it make you any better to ridicule someone else's belief?

Ok, let's say I insist that Red Bull Racing was actually set up by the Coca Cola Company and the team owner is only a clone of Mateschitz. You go about and prove me wrong with all kinds of evidence, however, I maintain my belief and am serious about it. You won't laugh at me???

[welshie]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

If you believe that the Earth is flat and somebody points out it's not, but you keep adhering to your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe that there are unicorns and somebody points out the likelihood is slim to nil that they exist, but you insist on believing in them, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe in superstition and fairy tales dating back a few thousand years that make you argue that Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with humans and somebody points out that science clearly refutes such a notion, but you remain adamant about your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.

Does it make you any better to ridicule someone else's belief?

Ok, let's say I insist that Red Bull Racing was actually set up by the Coca Cola Company and the team owner is only a clone of Mateschitz. You go about and prove me wrong with all kinds of evidence, however, I maintain my belief and am serious about it. You won't laugh at me???

You mean that isn't true??!!!

Well I don't believe you laallalalalaaalalalla

[Dutchcruijff]

I realise that. But they aren't applying Bible principles. That's why I'm not Catholic, or Muslim.

Look at what happened in the dark ages, where people were burned by the Catholic clergy just for translating the Bible to English. No, I will not be linked with these false religions.

its all the same s*** just different story teller!

Stop with the s*** dude...That's people religions/beliefs you're insulting...

If you believe that the Earth is flat and somebody points out it's not, but you keep adhering to your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe that there are unicorns and somebody points out the likelihood is slim to nil that they exist, but you insist on believing in them, don't pout if you get ridiculed.
If you believe in superstition and fairy tales dating back a few thousand years that make you argue that Tyrannosaurus rex coexisted with humans and somebody points out that science clearly refutes such a notion, but you remain adamant about your belief, don't pout if you get ridiculed.

Does it make you any better to ridicule someone else's belief?

Ok, let's say I insist that Red Bull Racing was actually set up by the Coca Cola Company and the team owner is only a clone of Mateschitz. You go about and prove me wrong with all kinds of evidence, however, I maintain my belief and am serious about it. You won't laugh at me???

I would think you are deluded...but I don't view any atheist or theist as deluded... And there has been plenty of sightings of miracles such as those of the Gurus in the 16th/17th century...hardly "story-telling" and hardly s***...

[McLaren Fan]

It just goes to show how much undue respect religion gets. bud makes a perfectly legitimate comment, but the God squad and other relativists leap on it. If, however, you criticised somebody's political views, nobody would care. It's time to stop the undue and unearned respect. Religions, of whatever kind, are a thought-system like any other, so are not above question and reproach.

It seems that creationists love playing with language, particularly with the word "theory". Unfortunately, they're too unintelligent and too brainwashed to realise this is only scientific or philosophical term. In laymen's terms, theory in the sense of, say, natural section means fact.

Religion constantly backtracks as well. Several hundred years ago, the Roman Catholic Church insisted the world was the centre of the universe. Recently, however, the Holy See has backtracked and issued Galileo an apology and admitted he was correct.

And the Bible cannot even correctly report the events of Jesus' birth. Luke's gospel does not add up historically: It was Quirinius - not Augustus - who commissioned the census, and the census was only of the province of Iudaea - not the whole empire. Moreover, it was not Roman custom to ask people to return to the land of their ancestry. And, this would never have worked in practice anyway. In terms of dates, the census was conducted in A.D. 6 - a minimum of eight years after Jesus' supposed birth, and two years after Herod the Great's death.

And what do religious junkies do in the face of such overwhelming evidence disproving the Bible? Rather than accept that the Bible has been proved to be false, theologians - who have the cheek to call themselves scholars - try to manipulate the scientific facts and twist their holy scribblings to suit their own evil agendas. "The Bible is only a symbolic text." "Its authors have made some mistakes." (All in certain places, of course.) Is there any point in religious people even reading Holy texts, saying they deviate from them so much?

[McLaren Fan]

I would think you are deluded...but I don't view any atheist or theist as deluded... And there has been plenty of sightings of miracles such as those of the Gurus in the 16th/17th century...hardly "story-telling" and hardly s***...

The human brain is extremely fallible. Because of mechanisms in our psychology, we are susceptible to believing in deities, thinking some form of extra-human agency is involved in things, hallucinations, etc. It takes higher cognitive capacity not to believe in god(s) than to believe in them.

[Dutchcruijff]

It just goes to show how much undue respect religion gets. bud makes a perfectly legitimate comment, but the God squad and other relativists leap on it. If, however, you criticised somebody's political views, nobody would care. It's time to stop the undue and unearned respect. Religions, of whatever kind, are a thought-system like any other, so are not above question and reproach.

That's laughable simply because of the "legitimate"

But let's leave it, eh? Don't want the "Atheist squad" coming out in their forces moaning "Ohh because it's religion this...religion that..."

[McLaren Fan]

It just goes to show how much undue respect religion gets. bud makes a perfectly legitimate comment, but the God squad and other relativists leap on it. If, however, you criticised somebody's political views, nobody would care. It's time to stop the undue and unearned respect. Religions, of whatever kind, are a thought-system like any other, so are not above question and reproach.

That's laughable simply because of the "legitimate"

But let's leave it, eh? Don't want the "Atheist squad" coming out in their forces moaning "Ohh because it's religion this...religion that..."

Or because the religious junkies cannot defend their delusions in the face of such overpowering evidence. All points of view are not equally valid, no matter what you say.

[Dutchcruijff]

It just goes to show how much undue respect religion gets. bud makes a perfectly legitimate comment, but the God squad and other relativists leap on it. If, however, you criticised somebody's political views, nobody would care. It's time to stop the undue and unearned respect. Religions, of whatever kind, are a thought-system like any other, so are not above question and reproach.

That's laughable simply because of the "legitimate"

But let's leave it, eh? Don't want the "Atheist squad" coming out in their forces moaning "Ohh because it's religion this...religion that..."

Or because the religious junkies cannot defend their delusions in the face of such overpowering evidence. All points of view are not equally valid, no matter what you say.

"but I don't view any atheist or theist as deluded"...They are the same to me...And a religious junkie? I think you have the wrong idea about me...you seem to think I'm a fanatic Roman Catholic or Muslim? Well I'm not...Don't get me wrong, I don't give Noah's ark was actually real especially concerning the practicalities but you don't see me calling it s***...

And "over-powering evidence"? I really don't want to get into technicalities involving a religion (Sikhism, due it being one of the most modern main religions) which I assume you would have hardly any idea about...