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[darwin dali]

I could use a hug !!

Here ya go

[texasmr2]

I guess I should take what is offered although I'm not really feeling the love ?

[bud]

I guess I should take what is offered although I'm not really feeling the love ?

[darwin dali]

I guess I should take what is offered although I'm not really feeling the love ?

[bud]

I guess I should take what is offered although I'm not really feeling the love ?

[texasmr2]

Thanks either way .

[f1ea]

Darwinius masillae fits nicely into the phylogenetic tree of primates. Dating her at around 47mya means she was walking the Earth about 8 million years after the tarsiers branched away from the anthropoid line that leads to monkeys, apes and ultimately humans. The tarsiers are still considered prosimians (such as lemurs, lorises, galagos, etc.) even though they already have a dry nose like monkeys, apes, and humans whereas 'true' prosimians have a wet nose like dogs. In that sense Darwinius masillae seems to be the oldest fossil anthropoid primate to date, the closest to the divide between prosimii and anthropoidea. However, it's by no means the oldest primate fossil - there are others such as adapidae and omomyidae that date back 59mya.

The article never states Ida's is the oldest Primate fossil, only the most complete and best preserved
But it does seem to be the oldest anthropoid.

[texasmr2]

Very cool stuff either way right?

[darwin dali]

Darwinius masillae fits nicely into the phylogenetic tree of primates. Dating her at around 47mya means she was walking the Earth about 8 million years after the tarsiers branched away from the anthropoid line that leads to monkeys, apes and ultimately humans. The tarsiers are still considered prosimians (such as lemurs, lorises, galagos, etc.) even though they already have a dry nose like monkeys, apes, and humans whereas 'true' prosimians have a wet nose like dogs. In that sense Darwinius masillae seems to be the oldest fossil anthropoid primate to date, the closest to the divide between prosimii and anthropoidea. However, it's by no means the oldest primate fossil - there are others such as adapidae and omomyidae that date back 59mya.

The article never states Ida's is the oldest Primate fossil, only the most complete and best preserved
But it does seem to be the oldest anthropoid.

The hype around the find however makes it sound like, see, e.g., this:
"This little creature is going to show us our connection with the rest of all the mammals; with cows and sheep, and elephants and anteaters," said Sir David Attenborough who is narrating a BBC documentary on the find. "The more you look at Ida, the more you can see, as it were, the primate in embryo."
To the non-scientist this implies that Ida is the first ever primate that's separate from all the non-primates such as cows and sheep, especially with that last phrase 'primate in embryo'.

[texasmr2]

I was having a bad hair day when that pic was taken so get off of my cloud!

[f1ea]

To the non-scientist this implies that Ida is the first ever primate that's separate from all the non-primates such as cows and sheep, especially with that last phrase 'primate in embryo'.

Oh now i understand... it should read 'anthropoid in embryo'. Because primates are already separate from cows and sheep... the link that needed reassurance was the split between primates and anthropoids.

Tex, what's up with that tail?? was it Halloween?

[darwin dali]

To the non-scientist this implies that Ida is the first ever primate that's separate from all the non-primates such as cows and sheep, especially with that last phrase 'primate in embryo'.

Oh now i understand... it should read 'anthropoid in embryo'. Because primates are already separate from cows and sheep... the link that needed reassurance was the split between primates and anthropoids.

Tex, what's up with that tail?? was it Halloween?

Kinda. They are all primates, the link or unique fossil is between prosimians and anthropoids (not primates and anthropoids). Their scientific publication is way less hyped and doesn't make such far reaching claims about evolution of humans, etc.

[Big Azza]

I reckon it's bull.

I don't have evidence yet, but I don't care. I'm not buying it.

[darwin dali]

I reckon it's bull.

I don't have evidence yet, but I don't care. I'm not buying it.

Well, at a rumored $1m you'd be hard pressed to find the required cash in your piggy bank

[Big Azza]

I reckon it's bull.

I don't have evidence yet, but I don't care. I'm not buying it.

Well, at a rumored $1m you'd be hard pressed to find the required cash in your piggy bank

Too true.

Oh, I'm still .