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[nuicly]

FIA punished Alonso and demoted him five places and to start at 6.
FIA punished Mclaren by not allowing them to collect any the contractor point.
What they did wrong?

Why Hamilton was not punished when he started all the trouble?

Hamilton disobeys the team order cause a lot of trouble to many people. FIA should black flag him and bar him from next race.

[samcmh]

Loser Hamilton and your daddy, i know you guys did! I hope you guys can sleep well at night? Sucker!!!

[aboldero]

hamilton was running quicker in the first part of the final session, if he'd dropped behind alonso, he'd have run one less lap than he managed, and it would hav emade NO difference to alonso, therefore he was not punnished.

alonso was punished al the stewards decided that he did not leave the pits when he was told to by the team, he waited a full 10 seconds with the team shouting at him and waving to him to leave the pits. this was not therefore a timing cock-up as he claims, but a deliberate act of a spoilt kid who can't get his own way. The stewards rightly felt this was effectively the same as what fisichella did to yamamoto, in deliberately blocking another driver from completing a quick lap, which is punishable

why McLaren were punished is less clear, it seams that they were punished for their standard practice of holding drivers in te pit to get a gap on track, which they have done all season, so i cant understand it. Although in this case there was no need, there were only 3 cars on track, two of them on in-laps and the other at the other side of the circuit, so i guess they were wondering why mlcaren felt the need to hold alonso at all.

either way, alonso was rightly punished, and mclaren's punishment is questionable to me...

[alonso_campeon]

Yes! He should be punished too, but why he is not? I think everything is very strange... maybe cause all the ones taking the big decissions at the FIA are coming from England? Hey guys, if u want to see one of your winning the ChampionShip, it must be a fair play. Its very difficult to run agains the FIA too.

I was thinkg about why Massa was not punished last GP when he hurted Alonso´s car? or why the FIA allowed LH to run after the accident whent the rules said thats not posible within 24 hours rest? or why when he was out of the race, they put it back there and no the rest of the other? Buf!!! Some many questions, without answers...

All of this smells really bad...

[Phil.T.Ho]

hamilton was running quicker in the first part of the final session, if he'd dropped behind alonso, he'd have run one less lap than he managed, and it would hav emade NO difference to alonso, therefore he was not punnished.

alonso was punished al the stewards decided that he did not leave the pits when he was told to by the team, he waited a full 10 seconds with the team shouting at him and waving to him to leave the pits. this was not therefore a timing chicken-up as he claims, but a deliberate act of a spoilt kid who can't get his own way. The stewards rightly felt this was effectively the same as what fisichella did to yamamoto, in deliberately blocking another driver from completing a quick lap, which is punishable

why McLaren were punished is less clear, it seams that they were punished for their standard practice of holding drivers in te pit to get a gap on track, which they have done all season, so i cant understand it. Although in this case there was no need, there were only 3 cars on track, two of them on in-laps and the other at the other side of the circuit, so i guess they were wondering why mlcaren felt the need to hold alonso at all.

either way, alonso was rightly punished, and mclaren's punishment is questionable to me...

McLaren were punished because the stewards did not accept their reasons for the hold up in the pit box........they felt McL were trying to cover for Fernando after his show of petulance to Lewboy!!!!!.......if McLaren had told Fernando to stay where he was then he has done nothing wrong!!!...but if he stayed the extra 10 secs just to p!55 off Lewboy, and then cost him his last run, well, i dont know what to say!!!.....FA woulda been raging if someone had done that to him you just gotta put yourself in the other persons position and think about it before you pull a bit of gamesmanship like this!!!!1......(definitely a schumacheresque style stunt tho)......i dont know whether to laugh or cry anymore

[supeindesu]

There is no rule about number of laps for qualify, or what you have to do when lollipop raises, FIA's decission was just disgusting politics, Hamilton betrayed his team.

[alonso_campeon]

Look, Fernando Alonso was right, because he did exacly what the team asked him to do...

U know the kind of relationship he is having with all the team, so if he was not saying the truth, be sure no one would be supporting him, R Dennis said he did what he asked it to do, so i dont know where is the problem??? But what about LH not letting him pass as the team ordered??? He is a spoiled kid who doesnt know how to lose...!!!!!!!!!

[alonso_campeon]

Hamilton betrayed his team, his team mate and which is wrost... He detrayed the fair play...

If u listen to the other competitors, they said there are not rules about it, thats a new rule to get Hamilton at the pole position. Im sorry, but as u dont know how to win Alonso u have to use the offices, hahaha. U r a group of losers!!!!

[Kat]

Yes, Hamilton did betray the team

Yes! He should be punished too, but why he is not? I think everything is very strange... maybe cause all the ones taking the big decissions at the FIA are coming from England? Hey guys, if u want to see one of your winning the ChampionShip, it must be a fair play. Its very difficult to run agains the FIA too.

I don't think that's the reason at all. The FIA can't punish Hamilton for not following team orders, for refusing to implement the team strategy - that's an internal problem for McLaren surely?!?

[alonso_campeon]

Thats what i think, its all about internal problems, i dont know why the FIA was to be inside all of this, but if the spoiled child goes and complain...

[Kat]

Yes, internal problems, definitely.

All I know is that all of this looks very bad and I feel angry and embarassed myself because Hamilton is supposed to be representing my country as well as the McLaren team
Up until this weekend I was very impressed with him, not now though

Hamilton also quoted the song "Rise Above It" from Cool Runnings in a tv interview - now, if he's simply saying you should just rise above your problems, then fine, but if he's seriously comparing himself to the Jamaican bob-sled team i.e disadvantaged and having to overcome hostility and racism from fellow competitors, that is an insult.
He has had the most privileged career of any driver so far!

[internos2k]

Thats what i think, its all about internal problems, i dont know why the FIA was to be inside all of this, but if the spoiled child goes and complain...

In my opinion too, not just Hamilton behaviour was an internal problem, but ALL that's happened on saturday. Also, since last saturday FIA should investigate the behaviour of ALL the teams, because this miteryous breach of the sporting code has been discovered casually, but they should search for the illegal behaviours, not just wait to see RD angry in te pits to investigate...FIA deliberately damaged McLaren for a behaviour thas IS NOT IN BREACH OF THE SPORTING CODE, this is what really happened. In my opinion, McLaren will be punished for every breath will take RD!

[alonso_campeon]

I think this wk was very important for Mc Laren team, because they saw the real face of his baby fave driver... I can not undestand how a pilot can fo until the FIA against his own team, thats unbelieveble!!! It was never seen before...

If its true that he is talking about racism from the other fellows, then someone has to stop him, cause now we r talking about serious matters, i dont think there are any racism from the other fellows, but what he would be showing (in case thats true) is he likes to be a victim... He likes to show the rest of the world how bad the rest treat them, how bad is Alonso not letting him win and bla bla bla. Poor guy, he had a lot to learn!!!

About the FIA inside the internal problems, thats the last thing we could expect!!! Whats gonna happen next? Maybe Alonso is gonna be shuck from the competiion just for breathing, come on!!!

Alonso campeón!!!

[nick_of_time]

I think Loser Hamilton don't know what he's doing, the only thing he may know is he want to win all the races and the world champion, at the cost of the team and his team-mate. He's not a team player, that's for sure. In a race like F1, unflinching team support is the pinnacle at all the world champion title.

I found a lot irregularity in his speaking at the post-race press conference. On one hand, he admitted that he's wrong for not letting Alonso pass at the beginning of Q3, and he blames the team and his team-mate for delaying him to make the final run. That's one, two, during the post qualifying meeting he admitted his mistake to Alonso and his team but yet he wants Alonso to come talk to him first, and not the other way around. This attitude is very bad and unacceptable. During the final part of the press conference, the press asked him why is it that Alonso should be the one to come and talk him first and not the other way around. He turn around ask the press "who said that".


I really don't believe myself when i read it. It was obvious that Loser Hamilton really didn't mean what he said, and he didn't care about the team, and especially not his team-mate.

He should be a bit more appreciative to the team and especially Alonso, because he is running Alonso setup for most of the race.

I would not want a WC like him. Loser Hamilton, thing like this always comes around.

[McLaren Fan]

why McLaren were punished is less clear, it seams that they were punished for their standard practice of holding drivers in te pit to get a gap on track, which they have done all season, so i cant understand it. Although in this case there was no need, there were only 3 cars on track, two of them on in-laps and the other at the other side of the circuit, so i guess they were wondering why mlcaren felt the need to hold alonso at all.

either way, alonso was rightly punished, and mclaren's punishment is questionable to me...

McLaren's mysterious punishment has not been explained properly in the stewards' report nor by Ferrari partisans on this forum. It is clearly a politically motivated decision, not for the first time in several years, to give Ferrari and advantage. The fact a McLaren representative was not allowed on the podium, despite their denials, was instigated by Ferrari.

Max Mosley goes on about Formula One lacking public appeal, well, he's a complete hypocrite. Who's the one has seen ridiculous so-called safefy restrictions put in place that have not increased safety, for example, the Variante Alta being changed at Imola? Who's the one who has seen the sport remain as political as ever? The answer: Max Mosley.