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[racechick]

Even is still time to put everyone on his place, but not at the offices, no, he wont do that, he will win where he always ein, in the motorway...[/quote]

Hey you still here
I draw your notice once again to the qualifying times on sat as you didnt coment on them before. Perhaps like Alonso the timing clocks are lying. Lewis is doing his talking on the road


Quali 1 Lewis fastest on 1.19.570
Quali2 Lewis fastest on 1.19.301
Quali3 1st run Lewis fastest on 1.19.781 (4tenths up on alonso)
Quali 3 2nd run lewis blocked by a desperate alonso

[ArtHowe]

Internos.

The incident was thoroughly investigated and it was duly decided that blame should be allotted jointly to McLaren and Alonso. What's the problem? You're flogging a dead horse.

[internos2k]

Ok..we'll see next time what wil happen in similar conditions. My opinion is that this mysterious articles exist only for last saturday and only against McLaren.

[ArtHowe]

That is plainly not the case. Vide Fsichella blocking at Hungary and Schumacher at Rascasse.

[thebiggman]

So let LH setup his own car... there'll be laughs everywhere in the paddock

Do you really think that Hamilton has no input on how his car is setup? Do you remember that he and Alonso were on two different sets of tires, hence different setup. They don't have the same driving style so I don't see their cars being set-up exactly the same. You comment is childish. The driver has a major influence on how his car is setup based on his preference, feel and the car's performance on the track.

[thebiggman]

It is truly amazing to me that so many die-hard F1 race enthusiasts can not
see the facts for what they are without adding personal bias. Based on the
facts I feel that Lewis did make a bad decision by not following team orders,
but Alonso made it worse by making Q3 his own personal agenda to punish
Hamilton. Alonso was rightly punished for his actions, he was wrong. We
have all heard that two wrongs don't make a right. Many of you are probably
wondering what I am talking about, so here are the facts that I observed
during Q3.

Hamilton started Q3 directly in front of Alonso. For the 1st lap they were
within 1 second of each other. At the start of the second lap, Alonso drops
off of the pace which makes it look like Hamilton is pulling away. He drops
so far off of the pace that he ends up holding up Kimi. Alonso, is driving
so slowly up to the 1st pit stop that his time ranked in 8th place. Also,
just before the first pit stop he had slowed so much that he let Kimi go by.
I have never seen this lack of performance from Alonso in the past 3 years.
As he entered the pit, he took his time with no since of urgency. While in
the pit, you can see him feverishly moving his head and hands as he was
talking to his team on the pit wall, then the camera cuts to the guy on the
lollipop holding him in the pit and then starting the countdown. When he
finally exited the pit, Hamilton entered approx. 10 seconds behind him.
Mission Accomplished! At the start of the 2nd lap, Alonso wanted to get
Hamilton behind him so that he could execute his premeditated plan. He did
everything he could to make that happen. I'm also certain that it was his
idea to be held in the pit until Hamilton was within 10 seconds of him. This
means that Hamilton was about to put Alonso one lap down. This is the 2 time
world champion and a rookie is about to put a lap on him in the final
qualifying session? Alonso didn't have any mechanical issues causing him to
drive that far off of the pace. Finally, the last pit stop. Hamilton is
waiting behind Alonso in the pit. During this pit stop, the team is finished
with their work and the lollipop is still down, no one is doing anything to
his car, but the lollipop is down and Hamilton waiting. Then the lollipop
comes up and Alonso still doesn't move, he waits, and additional 10 seconds.
The next thing we see is Alonso putting down his fastest lap of the session,
the first time he drove at 100% the entire 15 minutes. The sad thing is, he
only beat Hamilton's time by 1 tenth. Remember, Hamilton did a 1.19:3 in Q2.
I'm sure he would have put up the same number or better if Alonso hadn't been
pouting and trying to get revenge on Hamilton.

I have read many things out here saying that Hamilton is a cry baby and
Alonso didn't deserve to be punished. From the facts that I saw, Alonso got
off easy, because this was intentional and premeditated. He made the entire
Q3 session a vendetta against Hamilton. If you are the 2 time world
champion, beat Hamilton straight up. Out drive him with your skill and
experience. Obviously, Alonso can't do that and has to resort to tactics
such as what we saw in Hungry. It is really sad and depressing to see this
type thing taking place in F1 and especially within one team.

I posted this on another thread in this forum, but it looks like I need to drop it off over here also. This is my analysis of what I saw during Q3!

[aboldero]

thankyou biggman.. as i said in the other thread.. i've been trying to get this point across..

[racechick]

Bigman you have said it exactly as I felt it. but far more unemotionally and eloquently than i could have done. The way some people distort the facts makes me so cross i just end up saying silly things. Brill. well said.