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[Jensonb]

I find myself standing opposed to this Ferrari love-in. Whilst the FiA needs a change of leadership, I feel a breakaway at this stage is too late to be relevant. On the issue of budget-capping, the FiA is correct. A better solution than to refuse to enter would simply be to accept the budget cap. It is Ferrari and the other dissenters who threaten to tear this sport apart, not the FiA.

I never thought I'd have to say that.

[Frosty]

Personally I think Max may have seriously miscalculated this. He decided on the 2010 regs at the last WMSC meeting the two tier system enraged all the teams so individually they started voicing their concerns. A week later FOTA met and may of chosen on a plan of action but chose to keep it quiet. In my opinion I think part of that plan was for teams to speak and threaten to pull out as individuals then when Luca meets Max this week he could say that FOTA as whole could pull out. Max then won't be able to tell the public that Luca has bullied the teams because the teams as individuals have already spoken out. Well that's what I would do, all the teams don't like the 2 tier system they need to get rid of it.

[MAD MAX]

I hope the teams stand together on this one, tell em to F.R.O

[racechick]

Well already they're not together.

[Rivelution]

Holy crap! Hope they go to Le Mans if they leave

[EwanM]

We're all in this together

[racechick]

[Jensonb]

We're all in this together

Once we know
That we are
We're all stars
And we see that
We're all in this together
And it shows
When we stand
Hand in hand
Make our dreams come true

[darwin dali]

In the town where I was born,
Lived a man who sailed to sea,
And he told us of his life,
In the land of submarines,

So we sailed on to the sun,
Till we found the sea of green,
And we lived beneath the waves,
In our yellow submarine,

We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine.

And our friends are all aboard,
Many more of them live next door,
And the band begins to play.

(Trumpets play)

We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine.

(Full speed ahead, Mr. Parker, full speed ahead!
Full speed over here, sir!
Action stations! Action stations!
Aye, aye, sir, fire!
Captain! Captain!)

As we live a life of ease
Every one of us has all we need,(has all we need)
Sky of blue, and sea of green,(sky of blue and sea of green)
in our yellow(in our yellow) submarine.(submarine) ( Hahaha! )

We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine.

(fading)

We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine,
We all live in a yellow submarine,
yellow submarine, yellow submarine.

[billindenver]

I hate yellow. I'm a grey submarine supremist.. Death to all yellow submarines!

[nikon133]

Cosworth...could, but not standing with the team manufactures of F1 would be akin to crossing a picket line.

At the same time Williams, Brawn and Force India (as the articles have repeatably stressed) do not have any other businesses outside the world of Formula One Racing.
They aren't car manufacturers etc etc, they have to remain in the sport at all cost. With Cosworth waiting in the wings, im sure that they would be happy to take it on board.

Im surprised at Red Bull - I realise they've always wanted to be part of Manufacturer Gang, but they could so easily run the Cosworth too if need be. Renault remaining silent... does that mean they could leave altogether?

Flavio is such a manwh*re. Whatever he says, I can see him deciding to stay if he thinks Renault could be utterly dominant in such a crippled F1 line-up. And if Brawn and others would end up with mediocre Cosworth engines, he might just end up having dominant team.

Or maybe he is considering to make Renault an engine choice for all F1 teams..?

[bud]

Ferrari's executive board will meet to discuss ‘governance developments’ and the future of Formula One at Maranello on Tuesday, the Italian team has announced.

It is expected that, following Red Bull and Toyota's announcements that they will not lodge 2010 team entries with the FIA by the May 29 deadline, Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo will then make a statement about the current political situation. Part of the afternoon board meeting will be devoted to ‘current situation analysis’ related to F1, a Ferrari statement said on Monday.

Go Ferrari

[code-red]

Surely they will do something to keep those teams in the sport... it would suck to have just 3 teams

[billindenver]

They would have more than three teams. Hyundai would surely jump in, as would Tampax and probably Tide. They could all run Cosworth motors, spec electronics, spec downforce, spec tires...hell we can call it Nascarmula, or maybe F1ascar or something cool like that. Then, Ferrari and every real formula one team could go off and form another series which all of the Formula one fans can watch..while the nascar and spec racing fans can watch the Max Formula CheapSpec series. It makes my heart glad to see the teams standing up to Max and his bullpoo dream of spec Formula one at Walmart prices. The teams would have burned through his budget just catching up with the grey area rules changes already this season. More rules, less racing, no development money, no testing....so basically you run the season on what you have brought to the first race. That sounds like a fun season to watch? Ferrari has spent a fortune since the first race...and guess what? They ran MUCH better this past weekend. Does anyone want to see that ability go away? Say your favorite team shows up at the first race with a car that is horribly slow in comparison to...oh, say Force India. They won't have the ability to spend some cash and fix it? They have to run the season on a poor car because of a spending cap? What the hell kind of racing would that be?

No NO NO.

[irons_4_ever]

Ferrari have announced they will meet on Tuesday to discuss their future involvement in Formula 1 racing.

The move comes just two weeks after F1 governing body the FIA introduced new cost-cutting measures encouraging teams to operate within a £40m budget cap.

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo wrote to FIA counterpart Max Mosley last week to express his concerns that the cap could lead to a two-tier F1.

F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone has dismissed claims Ferrari could quit F1.

The 78-year-old told the Times: "Ferrari are not stupid. They don't want to leave Formula 1 and we don't want to lose them, so we'll get to grips with it."

Ecclestone's remarks come after Mosley said that F1 did not need Ferrari.

"The sport could survive without Ferrari," Mosley said. "It would be very sad. It is the Italian national team."

His remarks were widely interpreted as the latest salvo in the ongoing political battle over the future of the sport.

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo is chairman of the Formula 1 Teams' Association (Fota), whose members are unanimously opposed to a two-tier F1.

Mosley's proposal for next year is for teams that operate within the budget cap to have greater technical freedom than those who do not.

Last weekend, Toyota became the first team to say they would quit F1 if next year's rules were not changed.

Di Montezemolo has said the idea could be "fundamentally unfair and perhaps even biased".

And the F1 drivers disagree with Mosley's claim that the sport could survive without Ferrari.

World champion Lewis Hamilton said he "could not imagine" F1 without Ferrari while Renault's Fernando Alonso said it was "impossible" for it to happen.

And BMW Sauber's Nick Heidfeld was left bemused by Mosley's comments.

He said: "I thought that people were looking and listening to the fans worldwide and Ferrari is obviously the biggest name in F1 with many supporters and has been there since the very beginning, so they belong in F1 for sure."

Ferrari hold numerous records in the sport and have competed in more races than any other F1 team since making their debut at the 1950 Monaco Grand Prix.

Since then they have won 209 of the 781 races they have lined up for, leading to 16 constructor and 15 driver championships.

Any team wishing to compete in next year's championship must notify the FIA by 29 May and state whether they wish to compete under the cost-cap regulations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 044860.stm