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[darwin dali]

F1live:
Red Bull has followed Toyota in declaring that it will not enter next year's world championship under the current regulations.

Toyota's team President John Howett made the threat this weekend in Barcelona, as other teams including Ferrari and BMW also openly baulk at the governance of the sport by Max Mosley and his plans for voluntary budget caps.

"Conditions at the moment are not so, that we would enter a team for next year," Red Bull team owner Dietrich Mateschitz, at the Spanish Grand Prix this weekend, said in an interview that will be published by Austria's Salzburger Nachrichten newspaper on Monday.

The billionaire suggested that the other ‘manufacturer teams’ will also not take part. "Of the teams now, only two or three will remain," Mateschitz added.

The FIA's deadline for 2010 entries is May 29th.

McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh said after a two-hour meeting of the FOTA teams on Sunday that public threats about not meeting the deadline are ‘not helpful’.

However, it is expected that, depending on the outcome of a meeting with Mosley in London next week, FOTA could announce a sweeping boycott of the May 29 deadline.



Looks like the gloves are coming off
That's 3 teams right there: Toyota, RBR and STR. Ferrari on the fence, BMW Sauber not too happy either, Renault could use this as an excuse.

[shani182]

Thank god.

Has thisgot something to do with the winner takes all system as well?
And the refuelling?

Or is it just the budget cap?

[cap-dude]

The winner takes all system isn't going ahead, and re-fueling ban isn't really a problem. It's mainly the idea of budget caps and a two tier formula 1.

No surprises really, if the teams aren't happy they need to do something about it and that's just what they're doing. The only team I can imagine who won't boycott are Williams, since if they do, they don't have anything else to do. Williams is an organisation built purely around F1.

[Hexagram]

The cap may rise to 50 - 60 million but the teams are going to have to accept some sort of cap will be coming into effect next year.

[McLaren Fan]

From F1 Live:

Renault is not yet joining the threats of a 2010 entry boycott, but team boss Flavio Briatore has made clear his opposition to a £40m budget cap.

It is expected that when the May 29th deadline for 2010 team entries closes, only Williams, Brawn and Force India will have submitted paperwork.

It is believed that all the other teams, to meet for another round of FOTA talks as soon as this week, will shortly clarify that they are not willing to accept Max Mosley's regulations as they stand.

Briatore, although a staunch supporter of radical cost-cutting in Formula One, told Germany's Welt am Sonntag newspaper that his objection is to the opening of the door to cut-price outfits.

"Whoever has 20 or 25 million Euros should not be able to operate a Formula One team," said the Italian. "If we make that possible, the brand will be worth nothing.

"It would be like seeing discount stores suddenly established on an exclusive shopping street," said Briatore, the owner of high-end clubs and fashion stores named Billionaire.

He said the situation is serious, because big names including Toyota, BMW and Red Bull have already threatened to quit over the situation.

"Without big, important names - and Ferrari is one of them - Formula One is worth much less," the 59-year-old insisted.

But he suggested that he is not completely opposed to the idea of budget capping.

"I could imagine that FOTA - not in 2010, but starting from 2011 - agrees with the FIA on a minimum sum per year, that is obligatory for all the teams," said Briatore.

"A brutal solution, that is before us at the moment, doesn't have a chance," he insisted.

Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

[Gilles 27]

Brilliant, good to see the teams actually have some balls. Could be that they are looking for an excuse to pull out on the other hand. Which is entirely ball-less.

[bud]

how about no change next year...... easiest way to cut costs!!! but no lets change the regs all over again and push R&D on two fronts all over again

[Gilles 27]

yup good point bud, kill the KERS, keep the rules as they are, that's gonna save a whole load of money right there. For me the best way of cutting costs would be to cut down on the flyaway races, ban the massive motor homes and all the other expensive paraphernalia that is superfluous to the racing, ban tyre warming, ban re-fueling and fix the regs for a few seasons

[f1usa]

From F1 Live:

Renault is not yet joining the threats of a 2010 entry boycott, but team boss Flavio Briatore has made clear his opposition to a £40m budget cap.

It is expected that when the May 29th deadline for 2010 team entries closes, only Williams, Brawn and Force India will have submitted paperwork.

It is believed that all the other teams, to meet for another round of FOTA talks as soon as this week, will shortly clarify that they are not willing to accept Max Mosley's regulations as they stand.

Briatore, although a staunch supporter of radical cost-cutting in Formula One, told Germany's Welt am Sonntag newspaper that his objection is to the opening of the door to cut-price outfits.

"Whoever has 20 or 25 million Euros should not be able to operate a Formula One team," said the Italian. "If we make that possible, the brand will be worth nothing.

"It would be like seeing discount stores suddenly established on an exclusive shopping street," said Briatore, the owner of high-end clubs and fashion stores named Billionaire.

He said the situation is serious, because big names including Toyota, BMW and Red Bull have already threatened to quit over the situation.

"Without big, important names - and Ferrari is one of them - Formula One is worth much less," the 59-year-old insisted.

But he suggested that he is not completely opposed to the idea of budget capping.

"I could imagine that FOTA - not in 2010, but starting from 2011 - agrees with the FIA on a minimum sum per year, that is obligatory for all the teams," said Briatore.

"A brutal solution, that is before us at the moment, doesn't have a chance," he insisted.

Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

I can't see Mercedes supplying motors for Brawn and Force India in 2010 if they comply with May 29 deadline. The same for Williams running Toyota motors.

[Gaz]

I think its good with the teams doing this i can understand some teams being abit weary but since a few have now jumpped hopfully more will.

Need Mclaren and Ferrari to get invloved with this.

This really is simply caused by the FIA not talking to the teams enough i'm sure if they all sat down and talked this out there would an agreement that would be best for the sports survival and the teams.

The FIA must understand they can not dictate to teams especialy when there in such a strong union.

[bud]

if Fota stand united the FIA will have no choice but to stand down and listen and work on the regs with the teams instead of forcing the regs on them!



but if Williams or Forceindia and Brawn choose to sign up then FOTA still has the big players and will still have the power! Ferrari and McLaren fans can stand united for once

[Gaz]

if Fota stand united the FIA will have no choice but to stand down and listen and work on the regs with the teams instead of forcing the regs on them!



but if Williams or Forceindia and Brawn choose to sign up then FOTA still has the big players and will still have the power! Ferrari and McLaren fans can stand united for once

Well it showed Demenacali and Whitmarsh talking on the gird.

So looks like there getting on.

[yamashek]

i really hope FOTA can work something out with FIA, cutting cost in that sort of fashion is a bit extreme...
re-fuel ban would be interesting...

i am happy to see Domenacali talking to Whitmarsh though, good sign

ps: the biggest irony in cost saving- KERS.

if FIA want to introduce KERS, they shouldn't play the cost saving card as they are now...
KERS vs Cost saving....

its just an oxymoron if put together in the same sentence

[MAD MAX]

Bernie will want to divide an conquor. Unless all the teams adopt this, it will fail

[Gaz]

Bernie will want to divide an conquor. Unless all the teams adopt this, it will fail

This has nothing to do with Bernie mate, hes FOM they do not decide the rules

This is Max Mosely and the FIA