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[Tony_sa]

Because she does them backwards

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Kimi's cool

Ya he is , isn't he ?? funny how these weird things happen to him when schumi's present ...

[Jabberwocky]

I am not just saying that yesterday was only Kimi's fault (the use of We and not I in his comments supports this)

How can it be a knee jerk reaction? unless I have the reactions of a whale, lets face it the real Kimi hardly turned up at all last year)

[Tony_sa]

I am not just saying that yesterday was only Kimi's fault (the use of We and not I in his comments supports this)

How can it be a knee jerk reaction? unless I have the reactions of a whale, lets face it the real Kimi hardly turned up at all last year)

Ya well ... who cares anyways... Kimi appears to have lost all motivation to even try and make a appearance - then again i would have reacted in the same manner if my team lost all their marbles. hopefully kimi will turn up drunk for work today... I'm sure that's what they call it ... and beats schumi up for the teams crap yesterday.

[Jensonb]

Kimi's cool when he is "fighting"

but until now, Kimi has been.......quite...sloppy, honestly.
Massa has the edge over Kimi

No way. Kimi is faster, Massa more consistent. They're about even stevens.

[scotty]

I am not just saying that yesterday was only Kimi's fault (the use of We and not I in his comments supports this)

How can it be a knee jerk reaction? unless I have the reactions of a whale, lets face it the real Kimi hardly turned up at all last year)

Ah, your original post suggested that is all. No worries then.

As for last year... hmm, he wasn't great but was also unlucky (France and Canada) - there were maybe 3 races where he was very poor, Germany, Hungary and Valencia - aside from that his general speed was a lot better than people seem to make out.

[Denthúl]

I am not just saying that yesterday was only Kimi's fault (the use of We and not I in his comments supports this)

How can it be a knee jerk reaction? unless I have the reactions of a whale, lets face it the real Kimi hardly turned up at all last year)

Ah, your original post suggested that is all. No worries then.

As for last year... hmm, he wasn't great but was also unlucky (France and Canada) - there were maybe 3 races where he was very poor, Germany, Hungary and Valencia - aside from that his general speed was a lot better than people seem to make out.

Spa, too. Perhaps the biggest disappointment for him

[Gilles 27]

yeh last season he should/could have won in France, Canada, Spa and arguably Silverstone if things hadn't gone against him. Its no excuse though for last season, if he hadn't been so poor in other races, (more accurately qualifying) then it wouldn't have mattered as much.

Last year should have been an easy championship for Kimi, with the best car on the grid and being the reigning champion. I still think that he would have done better if the team had reacted to Massa's appalling opening two races and gone for a propper number 1 and 2 driver policy but his lack of pace over so many weekends last year was inexplicable.

i don't think he's driving badly so far this year, better than Massa IMO

[Gaz]

yeh last season he should/could have won in France, Canada, Spa and arguably Silverstone if things hadn't gone against him. Its no excuse though for last season, if he hadn't been so poor in other races, (more accurately qualifying) then it wouldn't have mattered as much.


Last year should have been an easy championship for Kimi, with the best car on the grid and being the reigning champion. I still think that he would have done better if the team had reacted to Massa's appalling opening two races and gone for a propper number 1 and 2 driver policy but his lack of pace over so many weekends last year was inexplicable.

i don't think he's driving badly so far this year, better than Massa IMO

France Yes

Spa if it didn't rain

Silverstone - no LH won by over a minuite. so just no.

Canada is also a big IF since lewis was so very quick there.

But we heard the car didn't suit the tires didn't suit just don't think things were going well for him so he gave up.

[Gilles 27]

Ok well just to clarify,

France - clearly yes

Canada - had the greater pace had just got ahead at the pitstop when he was taken out

Spa - if it didn't rain*

Silverstone - obviously highly contentious as Hamilton demolished everyone after the rain but Kimi was closing on Hamilton hand over fist before the stop when Ferrari put him on the wrong tires. Whether the Ferrari would have had any pace in the heavier rain afterward, we will never no. i suspect not but it certainly would have been closer than it was.


*I think the fact the Ferrari came up with a car last season that was unable to generate or sustain any kind of tire or brake temperature in sup-optimal conditions was indicative of their misguided development strategy. This problem blighted Kimi from the start of the season as Kimi found in 2007 that the best way to get the most out of the bridgestones on a Ferrari is to be easier on them. In 2008 Ferrari came up with a car which was even easier on its tires than the 2007 car and this was responsible for Kimi's qualifying woes in 2008 and their lack of wet pace.

All i can say is kudos to Massa for getting brilliant single lap pace out of it.

[csrracer]

Ok well just to clarify,

France - clearly yes

Canada - had the greater pace had just got ahead at the pitstop when he was taken out

Spa - if it didn't rain*

Silverstone - obviously highly contentious as Hamilton demolished everyone after the rain but Kimi was closing on Hamilton hand over fist before the stop when Ferrari put him on the wrong tires. Whether the Ferrari would have had any pace in the heavier rain afterward, we will never no. i suspect not but it certainly would have been closer than it was.


*I think the fact the Ferrari came up with a car last season that was unable to generate or sustain any kind of tire or brake temperature in sup-optimal conditions was indicative of their misguided development strategy. This problem blighted Kimi from the start of the season as Kimi found in 2007 that the best way to get the most out of the bridgestones on a Ferrari is to be easier on them. In 2008 Ferrari came up with a car which was even easier on its tires than the 2007 car and this was responsible for Kimi's qualifying woes in 2008 and their lack of wet pace.

All i can say is kudos to Massa for getting brilliant single lap pace out of it.

That's all fine and dandy in Kimi's defence, except during almost every race last year he showed he could pull off fast times when he pushed, but if you only put in 5 fast laps you can't get to the front. Maybe Kimi couldn't keep heat in the tires because he's just not pushing the car hard enough? At his salary I don't care if he likes the car or not, he could at least make it look like he's trying or that he cares, but he doesn't.
I thought I heard him say that he didn't feel like going out again in qualifying this past weekend, but he is a little hard to understand at times, kind of like a Finish Yoda
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[Gilles 27]

yeh i wasn't too pleased to hear him use the phrase 'I didn't really feel like going out again' after Saturday's qualifying fiasco. He could certainly do more to keep people off his back by making it sound like he's putting the effort in. I imagine he is because he has had to work hard to get to where he is now so he isn't work-shy but he gives a terrible impression sometimes.

The easy answer to the fastest lap conundrum of 2008 is that the Ferrari developed heat in its tires very well over a race stint. Quite often Kimi's pace wouldn't emerge until midway through his first stint so it would appear that while Massa was able to get decent tire temperature after two or so laps, for Kimi it was taking 10 or so. Strange but that was my read of it

[darwin dali]

He said he wasn't keen on going out again. That's a bit different from saying 'I didn't feel like'...

[TheOak]

How Kimi acts infront of the press is not indicative of his work ethics when it comes to racing. He's been the same way since the beginning of his career and I didn't hear anyone complaining about his work ethics back then. When he puts his helmet on I'm sure he drives as fast as he can.

[darwin dali]

How Kimi acts infront of the press is not indicative of his work ethics when it comes to racing. He's been the same way since the beginning of his career and I didn't hear anyone complaining about his work ethics back then. When he puts his helmet on I'm sure he drives as fast as he can.

When or rather IF he puts his helmet on

[EwanM]

How Kimi acts infront of the press is not indicative of his work ethics when it comes to racing. He's been the same way since the beginning of his career and I didn't hear anyone complaining about his work ethics back then. When he puts his helmet on I'm sure he drives as fast as he can.

When or rather IF he puts his helmet on

His work ethic has long been questioned.