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By internos2k
#11536
Nice summary:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 204359.ece

I've read. Good article. But what happened saturday is, in my opinion, totally different from what happened to MS last year in Monaco. There, MS (in the opinion of the stewards), deliberately prevented FA from taking pole position, moreover on the track. But FA wasn't a MS team mate, and the team didn't told via radio to MS to stop there: there was not link between MS' behaviour and the team. So they punished only MS. This time, in my opinion, the behaviour of the team has been considered, generally, in breach of the article 151/c. I think this has been the reason of the punishment, even if i, personally, don't agree with that decision. Theoretically, since last saturday, the FIA should acquire all the teams' radio recording for every qualifying session in the future, for a reason: McLaren has been punished because the explanation given by the team as to why they kept Alonso stationary for 20 seconds after completion of his tyre change has been considered unacceptable. But this has been discovered only because of the sensational behaviour of FA, RD and for what LH said at the press conference. But also, FIA should investigate on all teams behaviours, on everithng isn't possible to see and to hear directly. I know it's a totally crazy idea, but, as said, Theoretically...
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By bmwpower
#11542
I didn't ask for your opinion to explain this ruling to me.

Again your personal opinion which is not what I asked for!


Um, so no opinions on a discusion board?? so what should we do then??
and why in the world are you taking this so personal?? I know McLaren is in chaos but you need to take a chill pill and relax. This is a discussion board, people from all over the world come over heard with different opinions, some you may like, some you may not but don't take it personal man : :lol:

How in the whole world did you link this incident to the spying one? Again your personal opinion which is not what I asked for!


How can you asked me a question then don't ask me for an opinion?? Anyways, I didn't link the two incidents together, all I said is that its ironic that in both incidents, it fell under the same code of conduct.

And by the way, this would have never happened at ferrari. Do you know why? Not because they are a better team but because they don't believe in fairness/competitivness. They put 1 driver ahead of the other


So Kimi was never put ahead of Montoya??
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By internos2k
#11546
Since When Enzo Ferrari was alive, Ferrari has always chosen to work so. Ferrari wants competitiveness against the others teams but i find wrong define it as syptom of absence of fairness. With this system of work, Ferrari won 13 WC drivers (5 in the last 7 years) and 14 WC contructors. It seems this system works. :D Every team is free to choose how to work with his drivers. I think Formula 1 is a competition in which the winner wins, but maybe i'm wrong...
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By bmwpower
#11551
Since When Enzo Ferrari was alive, Ferrari has always chosen to work so. Ferrari wants competitiveness against the others teams but i find wrong define it as syptom of absence of fairness. With this system of work, Ferrari won 13 WC drivers (5 in the last 7 years) and 14 WC contructors.


You just give me chills mentioning Enzo. :shock:
#11569
After all we saw this wk, the only thing i can take from all this sh** it´s Hamilton can not be proud of winning yesterday...

I thought he shouldn´t be winning at the offices what he can not win as a man on the motorway!!! He should learn how to lose, cause its more important the behave u show when u lose that when u win... U can not go against ur own team (the one who gives u everything) and ur team mate.

I feel sorry for u LH, because u have to face Fernando Alonso who is much better than u, but not just a driver, as a person!!! I wish u r gonna pay for what u did to Fernando, to ur team and the F1 in general... and Alonso is gonna put where u deserve in the next Grand Prix.

Vamos Alonso!!! Estamos contigo!!! Gracias por hacernos soñar!!!
#11671
He should learn how to lose, cause its more important the behave u show when u lose that when u win... U can not go against ur own team (the one who gives u everything) and ur team mate.

I feel sorry for u LH, because u have to face Fernando Alonso who is much better than u, but not just a driver, as a person!!! I wish u r gonna pay for what u did to Fernando, to ur team and the F1 in general... and Alonso is gonna put where u deserve in the next Grand Prix.



For a moment I thought you were talking about FA here because EVERYTHING you say about LH actually applies to FA so much better.
#11672
He should learn how to lose, cause its more important the behave u show when u lose that when u win... U can not go against ur own team (the one who gives u everything) and ur team mate.

I feel sorry for u LH, because u have to face Fernando Alonso who is much better than u, but not just a driver, as a person!!! I wish u r gonna pay for what u did to Fernando, to ur team and the F1 in general... and Alonso is gonna put where u deserve in the next Grand Prix.



For a moment I thought you were talking about FA here because EVERYTHING you say about LH actually applies to FA so much better.


Well said DD, that is FA word for word!
By aboldero
#11674
i agree darwin..

i'm a fan of LH, but i'm impartial enough to be critical of him too, unfortunately alonso_campeon seems to be a bit blinkered and cannot see that no-one is perfect... even his beloved FA
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By alonso_campeon
#11683
No more comments about it...

Its really imposible to talk with blind people... Anyway...
By aboldero
#11685
No more comments about it...

Its really imposible to talk with blind people... Anyway...


yes, FA must be deaf and blind, he had team members shouting and waving at him to get out but he didn't see or hear them..
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By internos2k
#11690
No more comments about it...

Its really imposible to talk with blind people... Anyway...
C'mon...it's just a discussion. They are two different drivers: one with more XPerience, the other one with a really heavy right foot :D (It's just a joke, plz don't kill me). Think to us, in Ferrari, we have Massa as driver, CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?. You got the opposite problem. You should be happy to have two excellent drivers: we have one and half a driver, so far... :cry:
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By alonso_campeon
#11693
Yes, it is imposible, because they keep saying the same, even its not like that!!!

To be honest, i dont mind about MLaren, i want Alonso out of this team because they dont apreciate how good he is. I wish he is gonna be in Ferrari one day, maybe as soon as we thought...
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By darwin dali
#11695
Yeah, I could see him in a Ferrari STR :D
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By 8-ball
#11698
Yes, it is imposible, because they keep saying the same, even its not like that!!!

To be honest, i dont mind about MLaren, i want Alonso out of this team because they dont apreciate how good he is. I wish he is gonna be in Ferrari one day, maybe as soon as we thought...


ferrari is paying $51 million dollars for kimi and Massa is practically jean todt's son so Alonso wont be in a ferrari any time soon.
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By internos2k
#11704
Yes, it is imposible, because they keep saying the same, even its not like that!!!

To be honest, i dont mind about MLaren, i want Alonso out of this team because they dont apreciate how good he is. I wish he is gonna be in Ferrari one day, maybe as soon as we thought...


ferrari is paying $51 million dollars for kimi and Massa is practically jean todt's son so Alonso wont be in a ferrari any time soon.
I think so too. Never u will see Todt and Alonso together in the team.
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