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[Gert]

Seems he reckons he's found a way not to pay the teams what he'd agreed to pay.

There's a surprise eh?

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=37749

Question is, which team will be the 1st to bite the dust as a result of his financial chicanery?

[Denthúl]

I'd rather see the teams receive less money and have the circuits pay a lot less for races than see the teams receive more money and have the good circuits unable to afford to host races. So it'd be a positive move, for me.

[Gaz]

I'd rather see the teams receive less money and have the circuits pay a lot less for races than see the teams receive more money and have the good circuits unable to afford to host races. So it'd be a positive move, for me.

were loosing too many decent circuits

[EwanM]

Economic Blackmail at its finest.

[EwanM]

I added the Beckham part in just so I could post this:

cclestone admits F1 needs a Beckham
F1 CEO again critical of current GP stars
30/04/09 10:24
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... shtmlSorry


Formula One may be louder and more glamorous, but the sport cannot compete with football in one area, Bernie Ecclestone has admitted.

The F1 Chief Executive is well placed to draw comparisons between the world's two most popular sports, as he also co-owns the London club Queens Park Rangers.

This week on a visit to Spain, the 78-year-old hit out at some of F1's stars, including Fernando Alonso, calling them ‘stupid’ for not being more interested in promoting their sport.

He also thinks there are not enough characters: like the elite advertising brand and fashion icon David Beckham.

"In Formula One we do not have a Messi," billionaire Ecclestone said, referring to the 21-year-old Argentinean player.



"Or Beckham. He would be ideal," he is quoted as saying by the El Mundo newspaper.

Ecclestone, contemplating how to encapsulate all the under-represented groups in Formula One, then jokingly laid out his dream occupant of a Grand Prix cockpit. "Ideally she would be Jewish and black," he said.

[Gilles 27]

I agree with what he says about the teams and circuits. The circuits have long needed more financial support than the teams and now with the budget cap, there may be a lot of new teams wishing to enter. This will weaken the other teams' position when it comes to getting more money out of Bernie because a team that leaves can now be replaced. Also any large manufacturer that threatens to pull out over financial issues unless Bernie coughs up will now be pointed in the direction of the budget cap regs.

I'd rather loose, say Toyota than another good circuit like Imola

[scotty]

I thought Lewis Hamilton was supposed to be the 'Beckham' of F1?

[FerrariFan63]

The article says that the teams do not directly generate any revenue for F1, but the tracks do.

Yeah sure, like rock bands don't generate any revenue, it's only the concert halls and stadiums that do.

[7UpJordan]

Beckham??? Character?? More like a big ponce with an ugly, annoying wife!

Bernie should look at himself and stop taking to much money for his greedy gob.

[cap-dude]

So what Bernie wants is a self-obsessed over tanned half wit with a wife who makes salary look fat. Just what f1 needs.

Taxi for Bernie. He's got enough bloody money already. You want driver personalities, then enough with the sponsors getting away with driver image murder. They can't speak out anymore because their sponsors will apparently get "upset" Look at Red Bull, no sponsorship their and the drivers are great fun.

I remember my Mum actually telling me this (she doesn't actually know anything about F1) Apparent one of Bernies daughters doesn't enjoy F1 anymore because all the personalities are gone. It's not like the old days with people like Prost, Senna, Berger et all. The drivers are told what to say and barely ever see a drivers personality come through simply because they're groomed nowadays.

If you haven't yet, go onto BBC iplayer and watch the documentary on Graham Hill now. Then you'll see just what F1 is actually missing at times. I agree with Bernie I'd like to see drivers personalities come through, but not Beckham. He couldn't have given a worse example.

[Jensonb]

I added the Beckham part in just so I could post this:

cclestone admits F1 needs a Beckham
F1 CEO again critical of current GP stars
30/04/09 10:24
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... shtmlSorry


Formula One may be louder and more glamorous, but the sport cannot compete with football in one area, Bernie Ecclestone has admitted.

The F1 Chief Executive is well placed to draw comparisons between the world's two most popular sports, as he also co-owns the London club Queens Park Rangers.

This week on a visit to Spain, the 78-year-old hit out at some of F1's stars, including Fernando Alonso, calling them ‘stupid’ for not being more interested in promoting their sport.

He also thinks there are not enough characters: like the elite advertising brand and fashion icon David Beckham.

"In Formula One we do not have a Messi," billionaire Ecclestone said, referring to the 21-year-old Argentinean player.



"Or Beckham. He would be ideal," he is quoted as saying by the El Mundo newspaper.

Ecclestone, contemplating how to encapsulate all the under-represented groups in Formula One, then jokingly laid out his dream occupant of a Grand Prix cockpit. "Ideally she would be Jewish and black," he said.

Lewis Hamilton, Fernando Alonso, Robert Kubica, Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Mark Webber and Kimi Raikkonen (And more besides) just said "Ouch".

[Bovvaboy]

With budget caps of 40 mill Bernie will say the teams dont need as much money from the tv rights so he will divert some to the tracks IE take less from the tracks. He will make as much if not more from tv rights because there will be more teams and bigger audience there fore bigger tv rights money. He will give less to the tracks than is taken away from the teams but he has more tv money.

Guess what ? BERNIE WINS AGAIN!!!!!!!

[darwin dali]

With budget caps of 40 mill Bernie will say the teams dont need as much money from the tv rights so he will divert some to the tracks IE take less from the tracks. He will make as much if not more from tv rights because there will be more teams and bigger audience there fore bigger tv rights money. He will give less to the tracks than is taken away from the teams but he has more tv money.

Guess what ? BERNIE WINS AGAIN!!!!!!!

Nothing new

[bud]

why oh why do they put up with this s*** from FOM and the FIA? grow some balls FOTA

[csrracer]

The reason the tracks have a hard time making money is because after putting millions and millions of dollars into gigantic state of the art Grandstands (which are required by Bernie ) the tracks then have to turn around and charge huge fees for tickets to recoup their investment. Unfortunately because of the huge ticket prices the tracks have a hard time filling those huge Grandstands, it's a viscous circle. They need to come to a happy medium, so we can stop losing races in countries that should have races, Instead of continuing this trend to send the races to the countries that are the highest bidders. The tracks, the teams, the sponsors, everyone seems to be losing money on F1, except for Bernie, maybe he could cough up a few million out of his earnings to help the tracks out?