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[Phil.T.Ho]

he finishes the race and has a go at Massa?

hes a poor loser and winner???

I think you got your facts wrong here!!!....the Italian press on Monday hammered Massa for being a poor loser!!!!!.......they say Alonso beat Massa fair and square, and that Massa should shut the f* up!!!!!!!!.....Alonso pulled off a great overtaking move on Massa on the OUTSIDE!!!!, then left him by 8 seconds at the finish in only 3 laps!!!!!.....dont knock Fernando for showing Massa how to drive in the wet........you are only showing with this comment that you do not know good driving when you see it!!!!

[Phil.T.Ho]

Alonso is the most irritating ficking winner there is.

It's all very well to to celebrate, but he practically ejaculates.

Don't like Massa either. He's like a spoiled brat.

Well according to the ITALY PRESS, they sided with Alonso and called Massa a "foul - mouth". Massa approached Alonso after the race and said "f*** off" and " you got to learn how to f***ing driver properly". According to La Gazzetta dello Sport, the bible of Italy motorsport paper, they labeled Alonso "Super Alonso" teaching Massa a lesson. They are also irrated that after every race, Massa is a poor loser blaming everyone and everything but himself for losing. They also said during the end of the race, Massa's tires where going bad and that there was no way he could hold of Alonso, so Massa did the next best thing, block him and bang him but it didn't work. After passing Massa, Alonso was off into the sunset with Massa struggling to keep the car on the road. As usual, Massa blamed Alonso for losing the race. Like I said many times in previous races, Massa has become a bitch.

yeah dude.....hes Fernandos bitch:)

[Irv the Swerve]

"then left him by 8 seconds at the finish in only 3 laps!!!!!"

That just shows how much Massa was struggling with the vibrations when on wets. MW said that he too struggled with them.

[Alien_SAP_Fiend]

"then left him by 8 seconds at the finish in only 3 laps!!!!!"

That just shows how much Massa was struggling with the vibrations when on wets. MW said that he too struggled with them.

What tyre was Alonso on?

[Irv the Swerve]

"then left him by 8 seconds at the finish in only 3 laps!!!!!"

That just shows how much Massa was struggling with the vibrations when on wets. MW said that he too struggled with them.

What tyre was Alonso on?

Depends if the car was setup for the wet, McLaren could have put the extra front wing to make the difference.

[Phil.T.Ho]

Banging wheels is racing. What did he expect Massa to? Pull over to the side, wave him through and say 'After you, Fernando-baby?'

All good sportsmanship and racing in my book. Bit of honest defending - nothing deliberate.

no Victoria!!!.........im sorry to disagree with you, but BANGING anything in F1 at high speeds IS NOT RACING!!!!!.....IT IS CHEATING!!!!......2 cars racing at speed is a dangerous combination either on the public roads or on the racetrack!!!......suppose they touch and 1 car is sent skywards over the retaining barriers and into the crowd of spectators, where YOU just happen to be standing on your first visit to a Formula 1 race, and you are killed in the aftermath of "a bit of honest defending"????? Would you then think that Massas action in trying to stop Fernando passing him in a MUCH faster car in the wet was justified??????.....I think not, and if you was my wife/fincee/girlfriend i would be looking for Felipe Massa to kill the fukwit idiot for trying to stop Fernando overtaking him, when it was blatantly obvious that Fernando was much faster than him in the conditions at that moment!!!!!!......massa said he had problems with his last set of tyres, which must have contributed to the fact that he was more than 2 SECONDS A LAP SLOWER!!!! than Fernando!!!........so massa should not have flicked the steering to the right in that futile attempt to stop Fernando passing him!!!!.....as the Italian press have already said, massa was a sore loser and must learn to think about SAFETY both for himself and for the people around him, whether it be the other drivers on the circuit, or the innocent people in the grandstands watching the "sport" that has given him such a position of priveledge......Boxing and Martial Arts are "CONTACT" sports......Formula 1 is NOT !!!!!!!!.......contact sports that only involve the contestants are fine by me....they can kill each other if they want to, because it is THEIR choice in their chosen proffession!!! But Formula 1 is not about physical contact between the participants!!!!.....it is about who can drive a car the fastest over a pre-determined distance, that distance being set out by the FIA in the rules.........Massa pure and simply tried to intimidate Fernando into not trying to pass him!!!!....that sux!!!!...i do not and have never agreed with this bullpoo "defending" your position rubbish!!!!....there is no d3efending in F1.........if you are a team owner and your driver crashes into someone else putting both out of the race and costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros/pounds/pesetas(you get the drift....money is money whatever your language), are you going to be happy at the end of the race with 0 points and a big repair bill for your car????....of course not!!!!...you would start to thinkl about replacing the idiot you have in the cockpit!!!!!....luckily in this latest incident massa did not put both cars out of the race, ........but theres still 7 races to go!!!!!

[Phil.T.Ho]

Furthermore, I don't see anything unusual about 2 drivers having an argument after a race, and I don't see how it detracts from the driver's talent or sour any fan's esteem for him. Same goes for the fist in air with maniacal smile for camera after the argument(someone said it was immature in another thread). It's not like it's the first time 2 drivers argued, so get a grip everyone!

im 100% with you on that Brad.......

[welshie]

Banging wheels is racing. What did he expect Massa to? Pull over to the side, wave him through and say 'After you, Fernando-baby?'

All good sportsmanship and racing in my book. Bit of honest defending - nothing deliberate.

no Victoria!!!.........im sorry to disagree with you, but BANGING anything in F1 at high speeds IS NOT RACING!!!!!.....IT IS CHEATING!!!!......2 cars racing at speed is a dangerous combination either on the public roads or on the racetrack!!!......suppose they touch and 1 car is sent skywards over the retaining barriers and into the crowd of spectators, where YOU just happen to be standing on your first visit to a Formula 1 race, and you are killed in the aftermath of "a bit of honest defending"????? Would you then think that Massas action in trying to stop Fernando passing him in a MUCH faster car in the wet was justified??????.....I think not, and if you was my wife/fincee/girlfriend i would be looking for Felipe Massa to kill the fukwit idiot for trying to stop Fernando overtaking him, when it was blatantly obvious that Fernando was much faster than him in the conditions at that moment!!!!!!......massa said he had problems with his last set of tyres, which must have contributed to the fact that he was more than 2 SECONDS A LAP SLOWER!!!! than Fernando!!!........so massa should not have flicked the steering to the right in that futile attempt to stop Fernando passing him!!!!.....as the Italian press have already said, massa was a sore loser and must learn to think about SAFETY both for himself and for the people around him, whether it be the other drivers on the circuit, or the innocent people in the grandstands watching the "sport" that has given him such a position of priveledge......Boxing and Martial Arts are "CONTACT" sports......Formula 1 is NOT !!!!!!!!.......contact sports that only involve the contestants are fine by me....they can kill each other if they want to, because it is THEIR choice in their chosen proffession!!! But Formula 1 is not about physical contact between the participants!!!!.....it is about who can drive a car the fastest over a pre-determined distance, that distance being set out by the FIA in the rules.........Massa pure and simply tried to intimidate Fernando into not trying to pass him!!!!....that sux!!!!...i do not and have never agreed with this bullpoo "defending" your position rubbish!!!!....there is no d3efending in F1.........if you are a team owner and your driver crashes into someone else putting both out of the race and costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars/euros/pounds/pesetas(you get the drift....money is money whatever your language), are you going to be happy at the end of the race with 0 points and a big repair bill for your car????....of course not!!!!...you would start to thinkl about replacing the idiot you have in the cockpit!!!!!....luckily in this latest incident massa did not put both cars out of the race, ........but theres still 7 races to go!!!!!

Deep breaths dude . . . close your eyes, your in a forest, everything is calm . . . .

[Marco]

In all due respect, if you look at the pictures posted by 'rogo', you'll see that Massa probably couldn't avoid hitting Alonso. When you commit to a corner like that you're going to expect to run toward the outside on the exit of the corner. Applying the brakes would only lead him to understeer to the outside, and conversely, speeding up would cause him to spin on the exit.

It is racing, Alonso should realise that - perhaps next time he'll give Massa a bit more room (he had a couple of feet to the outside of the track when he passed Massa).

[bud]

Yes but from Alonso's point of view not seeing the replay like we could he felt that at the time Massa did it on purpose. its easy for us to say this sitting watching on your couch or geek box but being in the car is a totally different reality. im sure alonso would have seen the replay and noted it wasnt a deliberate move.

[Alien_SAP_Fiend]

It's all part of the Alonso Boogie when he wins. Lots of theatrics. Look at me! I am the greatest! Of course Massa didn't intentionally try to take him off the track. He's far more likely to damage his own car in the process. Massa was doing exactly the same as any other driver on the grid when a faster car is trying to get by - fend them off. If Alonso is so worried about his car, then he should have left more space for Massa when we overtook, but he basically forced his way past (because he had to) and then had a go at Massa after the race in front of everybody. Massa was already upset at having lost the place (like anybody else would be) and reacted to Alonso's theatrics. Alonso's a right cnut that way. Excellent driver, but total arsehole when he wins.

[Fact Man]

Marco & Alien_SAP_Fiend, you guys just don't get it, do you?
I bet if this were MS you would be praising his superiority to the other driver. I mean why can't some people just see the facts for what they are and not come up with some crap. So what if Alonso makes a big seen when he wins. Do you know how you will react if you were in his shoes. Absolutely not, you can speculate but that's about it. Once you are in there, you'll see things from a different perspective. Also, why is that such an issue. This is not what we are discussing in here. It's about Massa stupid and childish behaviour. No one said that Alonso is worried about his car. It was Massa who was pissed off at FA for pasing him in the corner under wet conditions. Massa's EGO just couldn't it handle the loss. So instead of working on his skills and blame his failure on hinself alone, he goes around putting all the blame on FA. Now who's more childish? Massa had every right to defend his position and even if he did it on purpose, that would have been fine with me. But don't bitch about it like Massa did. And than you call Alonso "Excellent driver, but total arsehole when he wins.
" and why is that. Is it because he enjoys his wins. Is that wrong, I don't think there are FIA rules on how to celebrate your wins. To everyone his own style. You just can't stomach how FA was able in the last few laps of the race to pass loser Massa. Well, get over it and send e letter to that moron Massa to practice a little more in the rain.

[Alien_SAP_Fiend]

Hey Fatman, Massa wasn't the one pointing at the side of his car in front of the cameras and starting to cause s*** with Massa afterwards. Alonso 'apologised' later. Massa was angry that he lost the place, but he didn't start the s*** afterwards, it was Alonso. Capice?

[bud]

Alastair you get upset over batracer dont you?

[Stephen]

Alastair you get upset over batracer dont you?

Lol! We all do, and then even more upset when that company sends you spam!