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[bud]

Rubens Barrichello could be the biggest loser should McLaren be banned by the WMSC, as there's speculation in the British media that Lewis Hamilton could then take his race-seat.

McLaren face possible expulsion, or suspension, from Formula One after the World Motor Sport Council charged them with bringing the sport into disrepute for the second time in just 19 months.

And should that happen the team could lose star driver and defending World Champion Hamilton as the 24-year-old and his father/manager Anthony are believed to have lost faith in McLaren's senior management after the Brit was instructed to mislead the race stewards in Australia.

This, though, poses the question of where Hamilton could go if he walks away from Woking with Brawn GP being touted as his best option.

"Lewis' future hangs on what happens to McLaren at the World Motor Sport Council hearing. If McLaren are kicked out of the Constructors' Championship at least Lewis can still race as he did in 2007 when the team were booted out over the Ferrari spying scandal," a senior F1 source told The News Of The World.

"But if McLaren are banned from several races, which could very well happen, then that would give Lewis's father and manager, Anthony, the excuse to pull him out of there.

"The only question mark is where he could go at short notice. Brawn GP is the one team that has been mentioned and the fact that they also use Mercedes engines is key.

"There is no question of Button being released as he is leading the Championship, but his team-mate Rubens Barrichello could be paid off quite easily."

Sir Jackie Stewart, though, has warned Brawn GP against signing Hamilton, stating that the team's lack of running in pre-season testing means they are in need of someone with Barrichello's knowledge to help them during race weekends.

"Is Ross Brawn seriously going to take Lewis on instead of Barrichello?" Stewart

"Rubens is very experienced in the setting up of the car, Lewis is not. And Ross needs that knowledge right now because of the ban on in-season testing."

The World Motor Sport Council hearing will take place on April 29th in Paris.

[billindenver]

lordblackstuff you have to expect a negative backlash when you heap the praise as deep as you do. Hamilton is not the worst thing to ever happen to F1 but he just as certainly isn't anywhere near the angel of role models you seem to believe he is. If a fan came on a public board like this one pitching the same over dramatized rhetoric about...oh...pick it really.....Trulli, Barricello, Alonso...any other driver..they would meet with resistance. How can you believe you will not get the same reaction over your public Hamilton love affair? His driving has been anything but perfect. In that area, I think Button would probably be the better role model. Button has never had 90% of the grid complaining publicly about his over aggressive driving style. Button has never been accused of cheating, lied about it and been proven wrong. Button has never rear ended a car in pit lane and then blamed his team for not telling him the light was red and there were two cars stopped across the entire pit exit. F1 cars are known for having no forward visibility right? Glare off the windshield? There are many such incidents that show his driving is less than perfect and several that show his character is the same.

Point being, every time something happens to poor little Hamilton, he passes the blame to someone else. Beached his car in pit lane...teams fault for keeping him out on worn tires. Like the driver has no input in those decisions. Strange, those tires kept him on pace and on the track prior to the pit lane though. How often have we seen other cars enter the pit lane with corded tires...or better yet, how many make it into the pits with flat tires or front wheels missing? Incidents abound when it comes to this guy and all of them are someone elses fault according to him. Look, he is a young driver and mistakes are going to happen...but his determination to blame someone else every time he does something wrong is what makes him the opposite of the role model you believe him to be. The latest lying scandal is only the symptom of the problem that has been here for some time. Hamilton was certainly not an innocent angel in the Alonso scandal ...but he claimed he was.

I guess what I'm trying to say is you typically are way over the top in your Hamilton Love Fest posts...and that is always going to have a backlash from those here disagree with you. That doesn't mean they are racist as you so often imply with your 'look at personal issues' garbage. If you can't handle the other side of the conversation, perhaps you should start a Hamilton Fanclub webboard...because I think you can see that around this one there are about 4...maybe 5 screen names (which probably means two or three actual people) who are your kind of hard core....the rest of us are just not going to agree with you. Hamilton is a rookie driver who has made more than his fair share of mistakes...that is simply not arguable. His character isn't arguable anymore either...so if he is an 'absolute legend' in your mind because of his skin color...well then I'm afraid you are guilty of what you accuse others of being.

[billindenver]

Rubens Barrichello could be the biggest loser should McLaren be banned by the WMSC, as there's speculation in the British media that Lewis Hamilton could then take his race-seat.

McLaren face possible expulsion, or suspension, from Formula One after the World Motor Sport Council charged them with bringing the sport into disrepute for the second time in just 19 months.

And should that happen the team could lose star driver and defending World Champion Hamilton as the 24-year-old and his father/manager Anthony are believed to have lost faith in McLaren's senior management after the Brit was instructed to mislead the race stewards in Australia.

This, though, poses the question of where Hamilton could go if he walks away from Woking with Brawn GP being touted as his best option.

"Lewis' future hangs on what happens to McLaren at the World Motor Sport Council hearing. If McLaren are kicked out of the Constructors' Championship at least Lewis can still race as he did in 2007 when the team were booted out over the Ferrari spying scandal," a senior F1 source told The News Of The World.

"But if McLaren are banned from several races, which could very well happen, then that would give Lewis's father and manager, Anthony, the excuse to pull him out of there.

"The only question mark is where he could go at short notice. Brawn GP is the one team that has been mentioned and the fact that they also use Mercedes engines is key.

"There is no question of Button being released as he is leading the Championship, but his team-mate Rubens Barrichello could be paid off quite easily."

Sir Jackie Stewart, though, has warned Brawn GP against signing Hamilton, stating that the team's lack of running in pre-season testing means they are in need of someone with Barrichello's knowledge to help them during race weekends.

"Is Ross Brawn seriously going to take Lewis on instead of Barrichello?" Stewart

"Rubens is very experienced in the setting up of the car, Lewis is not. And Ross needs that knowledge right now because of the ban on in-season testing."

The World Motor Sport Council hearing will take place on April 29th in Paris.

I would be very surprised if Brawn, who has spent years and years with Barrichello, pulled him for Lewis. I would be willing to give odds that it will not happen in fact. Brawn couldn't afford Hamilton even if they wanted him, and I very seriously doubt that Brawn wants his team chemistry upset at this point considering how well they have done this year. Nah, not going to happen....and I would be a set of Hoosiers on it.

[bud]

i just dont like the fact that if McLaren are banned for a couple races that Hamilton is still allowed to race on for another team, and not just any team but the pace setter!

And while Brawn might not want it to happen Mercedes might well want it to as they are supplying the engines.

[Jensonb]

It makes no sense to think Lewis could just muscle his way into Brawn GP. They are leading the Championship, they already have a world class (Thankyou David) "lead" (Purely on the basis he's ahead, Barrichello is also extremely rapid) driver in the form of Button, himself a great spokesperson for any sponsors and well-liked in the pitlane and outside F1. Barrichello is an experienced and wily safe pair of hands, who's currently second in the WDC. I don't see any need whatsoever for him to move over when he's doing as best he can.

Lewis might be the World Champion, but that doesn't mean he's the best driver for any given situation. Brawn GP has a solid team which knows it's drivers well. They're a lean, fluroscent yellow which sometimes looks (Because of the sky) kinda green winning machine. Lewis is an undeniably quick but also extremely aggressive driver who frequently brings drama in his wake.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

Quite aside from which, dropping Rubens for an arrogant (And yes, ditching the team which made your career in the way he would be is arrogant), spoiled brat would be quite some reward for his years of loyal service.

[Frosty]

For now I really think Brawn would be better off sticking with Rubens and Jenson. I also think Lewis would be better off sticking with McLaren.

[Hanwombat]

If Lewis goes to Brawn and Rubens is kicked out!

[Lordblackstuff]

lordblackstuff you have to expect a negative backlash when you heap the praise as deep as you do. Hamilton is not the worst thing to ever happen to F1 but he just as certainly isn't anywhere near the angel of role models you seem to believe he is. If a fan came on a public board like this one pitching the same over dramatized rhetoric about...oh...pick it really.....Trulli, Barricello, Alonso...any other driver..they would meet with resistance. How can you believe you will not get the same reaction over your public Hamilton love affair? His driving has been anything but perfect. In that area, I think Button would probably be the better role model. Button has never had 90% of the grid complaining publicly about his over aggressive driving style. Button has never been accused of cheating, lied about it and been proven wrong. Button has never rear ended a car in pit lane and then blamed his team for not telling him the light was red and there were two cars stopped across the entire pit exit. F1 cars are known for having no forward visibility right? Glare off the windshield? There are many such incidents that show his driving is less than perfect and several that show his character is the same.

Point being, every time something happens to poor little Hamilton, he passes the blame to someone else. Beached his car in pit lane...teams fault for keeping him out on worn tires. Like the driver has no input in those decisions. Strange, those tires kept him on pace and on the track prior to the pit lane though. How often have we seen other cars enter the pit lane with corded tires...or better yet, how many make it into the pits with flat tires or front wheels missing? Incidents abound when it comes to this guy and all of them are someone elses fault according to him. Look, he is a young driver and mistakes are going to happen...but his determination to blame someone else every time he does something wrong is what makes him the opposite of the role model you believe him to be. The latest lying scandal is only the symptom of the problem that has been here for some time. Hamilton was certainly not an innocent angel in the Alonso scandal ...but he claimed he was.

I guess what I'm trying to say is you typically are way over the top in your Hamilton Love Fest posts...and that is always going to have a backlash from those here disagree with you. That doesn't mean they are racist as you so often imply with your 'look at personal issues' garbage. If you can't handle the other side of the conversation, perhaps you should start a Hamilton Fanclub webboard...because I think you can see that around this one there are about 4...maybe 5 screen names (which probably means two or three actual people) who are your kind of hard core....the rest of us are just not going to agree with you. Hamilton is a rookie driver who has made more than his fair share of mistakes...that is simply not arguable. His character isn't arguable anymore either...so if he is an 'absolute legend' in your mind because of his skin color...well then I'm afraid you are guilty of what you accuse others of being.

Thanks for the long post .

Firstly when I say that people have personal issues I am not implying that all people who post negative posts against Lewis are rascist but a few here are over the top against him to the point of extreme hatred of him and to post such hatred of anyone regardless of colour is quite nasty.
Im quite happy to listen to reasone debate from reasonable people but some here are head cases.

I am not saying that Lewis is the only role model as there are many about but he is young inexperienced but he has shown he has a lot of talent which will be honed over the years.

No one can deny that after all he is a very young champion but a few people here do not give him credit and are more than happy to slag him off.
I was annoyed at a previous poster who made reference to president mugabe now that is uncalled for and if your looking to tar anyone for undermining this site with bringing rascism into it then maybee you should look a bit further afield

You are quite happy to highlight all the things that Lewis has done wrong and as for forming a fan club maybee it would be more appropriate for certain members to form a Hamilton hate club instead.I certainly wont be forming an internet website as I can see a few like minded people here so I will turn down your invite and remain here.

Best regards

LordBlackstuff

[Tony_sa]

lordblackstuff you have to expect a negative backlash when you heap the praise as deep as you do. Hamilton is not the worst thing to ever happen to F1 but he just as certainly isn't anywhere near the angel of role models you seem to believe he is. If a fan came on a public board like this one pitching the same over dramatized rhetoric about...oh...pick it really.....Trulli, Barricello, Alonso...any other driver..they would meet with resistance. How can you believe you will not get the same reaction over your public Hamilton love affair? His driving has been anything but perfect. In that area, I think Button would probably be the better role model. Button has never had 90% of the grid complaining publicly about his over aggressive driving style. Button has never been accused of cheating, lied about it and been proven wrong. Button has never rear ended a car in pit lane and then blamed his team for not telling him the light was red and there were two cars stopped across the entire pit exit. F1 cars are known for having no forward visibility right? Glare off the windshield? There are many such incidents that show his driving is less than perfect and several that show his character is the same.

Point being, every time something happens to poor little Hamilton, he passes the blame to someone else. Beached his car in pit lane...teams fault for keeping him out on worn tires. Like the driver has no input in those decisions. Strange, those tires kept him on pace and on the track prior to the pit lane though. How often have we seen other cars enter the pit lane with corded tires...or better yet, how many make it into the pits with flat tires or front wheels missing? Incidents abound when it comes to this guy and all of them are someone elses fault according to him. Look, he is a young driver and mistakes are going to happen...but his determination to blame someone else every time he does something wrong is what makes him the opposite of the role model you believe him to be. The latest lying scandal is only the symptom of the problem that has been here for some time. Hamilton was certainly not an innocent angel in the Alonso scandal ...but he claimed he was.

I guess what I'm trying to say is you typically are way over the top in your Hamilton Love Fest posts...and that is always going to have a backlash from those here disagree with you. That doesn't mean they are racist as you so often imply with your 'look at personal issues' garbage. If you can't handle the other side of the conversation, perhaps you should start a Hamilton Fanclub webboard...because I think you can see that around this one there are about 4...maybe 5 screen names (which probably means two or three actual people) who are your kind of hard core....the rest of us are just not going to agree with you. Hamilton is a rookie driver who has made more than his fair share of mistakes...that is simply not arguable. His character isn't arguable anymore either...so if he is an 'absolute legend' in your mind because of his skin color...well then I'm afraid you are guilty of what you accuse others of being.

so very wrong of me to quote this complete and "to the point" contribution as I am too lazy by far to type this much but ...................

what billindenver said !!!!!!!

[Lordblackstuff]

lordblackstuff you have to expect a negative backlash when you heap the praise as deep as you do. Hamilton is not the worst thing to ever happen to F1 but he just as certainly isn't anywhere near the angel of role models you seem to believe he is. If a fan came on a public board like this one pitching the same over dramatized rhetoric about...oh...pick it really.....Trulli, Barricello, Alonso...any other driver..they would meet with resistance. How can you believe you will not get the same reaction over your public Hamilton love affair? His driving has been anything but perfect. In that area, I think Button would probably be the better role model. Button has never had 90% of the grid complaining publicly about his over aggressive driving style. Button has never been accused of cheating, lied about it and been proven wrong. Button has never rear ended a car in pit lane and then blamed his team for not telling him the light was red and there were two cars stopped across the entire pit exit. F1 cars are known for having no forward visibility right? Glare off the windshield? There are many such incidents that show his driving is less than perfect and several that show his character is the same.

Point being, every time something happens to poor little Hamilton, he passes the blame to someone else. Beached his car in pit lane...teams fault for keeping him out on worn tires. Like the driver has no input in those decisions. Strange, those tires kept him on pace and on the track prior to the pit lane though. How often have we seen other cars enter the pit lane with corded tires...or better yet, how many make it into the pits with flat tires or front wheels missing? Incidents abound when it comes to this guy and all of them are someone elses fault according to him. Look, he is a young driver and mistakes are going to happen...but his determination to blame someone else every time he does something wrong is what makes him the opposite of the role model you believe him to be. The latest lying scandal is only the symptom of the problem that has been here for some time. Hamilton was certainly not an innocent angel in the Alonso scandal ...but he claimed he was.

I guess what I'm trying to say is you typically are way over the top in your Hamilton Love Fest posts...and that is always going to have a backlash from those here disagree with you. That doesn't mean they are racist as you so often imply with your 'look at personal issues' garbage. If you can't handle the other side of the conversation, perhaps you should start a Hamilton Fanclub webboard...because I think you can see that around this one there are about 4...maybe 5 screen names (which probably means two or three actual people) who are your kind of hard core....the rest of us are just not going to agree with you. Hamilton is a rookie driver who has made more than his fair share of mistakes...that is simply not arguable. His character isn't arguable anymore either...so if he is an 'absolute legend' in your mind because of his skin color...well then I'm afraid you are guilty of what you accuse others of being.

so very wrong of me to quote this complete and "to the point" contribution as I am too lazy by far to type this much but ...................

what billindenver said !!!!!!!

You been drinking too much south African Wine then

[Tony_sa]

LordBlackstuff ..... lemme make myself absolutely clear. firstly .. it appears you lack the ability to be objective about your lovechild's "trouble goes where I go but its never my fault" attitude. if you were not thinking along racial lines you would have understood why I made the mogabe connection - mogabe giulty of a million discrepancies - only one of em being racism - and that wasnt the one me was aiming for. but becoz that issue being first and foremost on your mind ,, that the one you latch on. .. shame on you bringing race into this issue. ... go back and familiarise yourself with all the s*** hamilton could be "claimed" to be responsible for b4 you come back here and compare him to God.

[Gaz]

It makes no sense to think Lewis could just muscle his way into Brawn GP. They are leading the Championship, they already have a world class (Thankyou David) "lead" (Purely on the basis he's ahead, Barrichello is also extremely rapid) driver in the form of Button, himself a great spokesperson for any sponsors and well-liked in the pitlane and outside F1. Barrichello is an experienced and wily safe pair of hands, who's currently second in the WDC. I don't see any need whatsoever for him to move over when he's doing as best he can.

Lewis might be the World Champion, but that doesn't mean he's the best driver for any given situation. Brawn GP has a solid team which knows it's drivers well. They're a lean, fluroscent yellow which sometimes looks (Because of the sky) kinda green winning machine. Lewis is an undeniably quick but also extremely aggressive driver who frequently brings drama in his wake.

The last thing Brawn needs is to swap clever Barrichello, who knows how to play the percentages, for "Win or die" Lewis, who's liable to bin the car at least half as often as he gets to be first.

Quite aside from which, dropping Rubens for an arrogant (And yes, ditching the team which made your career in the way he would be is arrogant), spoiled brat would be quite some reward for his years of loyal service.

OK don't get me wrong here, but your underating Lewis alot hes better overall than rubens and if you look at his past two seasons especialy 07 he was quick consistant and had a great podium hit rate.

Now that said i think they should keep Rubens because that car is gonna be difficult to setup and LH won't be able to use Jenson's setup because the driving styles are diffrent.

And i'm not sure hes gonna be as good as Rubens as setting up the car.

And i 100% think he should stay with Mclaren even if they are banned because it will shut up all the people who doubt his loyalty.

But wouldn't it be great to see him and Jenson race...

[MAD MAX]

For now I really think Brawn would be better off sticking with Rubens and Jenson. I also think Lewis would be better off sticking with McLaren.

Absolutely Frosty. Were only 2 races in, I'm comfortable that McLaren with Lewis in the driving seat will come through this mess

[racechick]

For now I really think Brawn would be better off sticking with Rubens and Jenson. I also think Lewis would be better off sticking with McLaren.

Absolutely Frosty. Were only 2 races in, I'm comfortable that McLaren with Lewis in the driving seat will come through this mess

Im with you both on this too.

[Tony_sa]

Longbow .... I dont believe you just said that..... come on now .... you much bigger than that...!!!! its like you are happy that lh was satisfied to have trulli lose his podium over a bunch of lies????..... was that fair in any way ??? ... no man ....maybe explaim meself a lil more. what I am saying is I dont believe after all thats happened you would go and support a hamilton/brawn move.... and make rubens the casualty...holi crap!!!