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[Gilles 27]

i reckon the stewards should take as long as is necessary to come to the correct conclusion. Mistakes happen when there is a lot of pressure to deliver a result quickly.

[FerrariFan63]

I agree that it was unhelpful that the stewards didn't reply to the query. But this in no way excuses what Ryan and Hamilton did. These are separate issues.

[Gaz]

I agree that it was unhelpful that the stewards didn't reply to the query. But this in no way excuses what Ryan and Hamilton did. These are separate issues.

No its all part of one big FIA duck Stewarts right.

[FerrariFan63]

No its all part of one big FIA duck Stewarts right.

How did the stewards make Ryan and Hamilton lie? The stewards also gave Ryan and Hamilton the chance to change their story, and I'm sure that McLaren would be in much less hot water had they done so.

[Denthúl]

I agree that it was unhelpful that the stewards didn't reply to the query. But this in no way excuses what Ryan and Hamilton did. These are separate issues.

No its all part of one big FIA duck Stewarts right.

No. They are seperate issues.

Race control were simply unable to answer a (rather insignificant at the time) request from McLaren because they were dealing with the string of crashes involving Vettel and Kubica. They had the safety car out, and the medical car appeared to follow it out of the pit lane. Even though it wasn't used, race control's attention was focused on something far more important in those last three laps of the race.

[Gaz]

I agree that it was unhelpful that the stewards didn't reply to the query. But this in no way excuses what Ryan and Hamilton did. These are separate issues.

No its all part of one big FIA duck Stewarts right.

No. They are seperate issues.

Race control were simply unable to answer a (rather insignificant at the time) request from McLaren because they were dealing with the string of crashes involving Vettel and Kubica. They had the safety car out, and the medical car appeared to follow it out of the pit lane. Even though it wasn't used, race control's attention was focused on something far more important in those last three laps of the race.

Thats what stewart is saying

Why should the guy you need to seek clarifcation from be dealing with safty.

Whiting should be - safty

Then you need somone else EX-F1 driver for Rules and Regs.

With Instant Decisions.

[7UpJordan]

I've been counting the days until Sir Jackie came out to have another swipe at the FIA.

[MAD MAX]

Then you need somone else EX-F1 driver for Rules and Regs.With Instant Decisions.

Absolutely, it needs someone impartial and un-biaised like Schuey

[EwanM]

I hate to say it, but I think Sir Jackie is making too much of a career berating the FIA.
IS that all he is ever asked about now?

[Gaz]

I hate to say it, but I think Sir Jackie is making too much of a career berating the FIA.
IS that all he is ever asked about now?

Yeh but hes right.

and its good that he says it.

[McLaren Fan]

Race Control's not getting back to McLaren and Ryan and Hamilton's lying to the stewards are separate issues; however I would say the former is one of several mitigating circumstances.

[Gaz]

Race Control's not getting back to McLaren and Ryan and Hamilton's lying to the stewards are separate issues, however I would say the former is one of several mitigating circumstances.

Yeh if the 1st hand happened the 2nd wouldn't of.

[FerrariFan63]

Race Control's not getting back to McLaren and Ryan and Hamilton's lying to the stewards are separate issues, however I would say the former is one of several mitigating circumstances.

Yeh if the 1st hand happened the 2nd wouldn't of.

There are a million things that, had they not happened, Ryan and Hamilton wouldn't have lied. But it was Ryan and Hamilton who took the conscious decision to lie, and to continue lying after being found out. That was their decision, and blame for that falls squarely on their shoulders.

[Tony_sa]

Race Control's not getting back to McLaren and Ryan and Hamilton's lying to the stewards are separate issues, however I would say the former is one of several mitigating circumstances.

Yeh if the 1st hand happened the 2nd wouldn't of.

There are a million things that, had they not happened, Ryan and Hamilton wouldn't have lied. But it was Ryan and Hamilton who took the conscious decision to lie, and to continue lying after being found out. That was their decision, and blame for that falls squarely on their shoulders.

exactly right. i think it really pathetic how the hammy cronies is looking for lil strings and reasons to justify hamiltons (and mcheaters) action in this regard.
there are NO mitigating circumstances here. accept it guys. I am quite surprized that stewart was so quiet up till now... I do think however that mclaren should have been punished further with maybe a one race ban or something and then considered the issue closed. What the hellllllll is happening to F1. ??

[Gaz]

Race Control's not getting back to McLaren and Ryan and Hamilton's lying to the stewards are separate issues, however I would say the former is one of several mitigating circumstances.

Yeh if the 1st hand happened the 2nd wouldn't of.

There are a million things that, had they not happened, Ryan and Hamilton wouldn't have lied. But it was Ryan and Hamilton who took the conscious decision to lie, and to continue lying after being found out. That was their decision, and blame for that falls squarely on their shoulders.

Yes but the point i'm getting at is if at Spa, and and in Oz we had decent stewards who knew about racing there would be no reason for them to lie.