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[Gaz]

The seemingly out-of-control 'lie-gate' scandal is the result of unprofessional stewarding in Formula One, according to regular FIA critic Sir Jackie Stewart.

The Scot, seemingly perpetually locked in a war of words with FIA President Max Mosley, said the entire affair could have been avoided if the governing body's officials on duty in Melbourne were better organised.

Stewart, a triple world champion and ex-team owner, said McLaren rightly radioed race control during the Melbourne race for quick clarification about whether Lewis Hamilton should or should not give the place back to Jarno Trulli.

"But he (Charlie Whiting) was apparently unavailable, trying to sort out the Sebastien Vettel problem," the 69-year-old, referring to the German's crash with Robert Kubica, told the Scottish newspaper the Herald.


"It seems strange that only one person has the authority to deal with these inquiries which could be result-changing in a multi-million pound sport,” Stewart continued.

"As it is, we now have a potentially serious state of affairs for McLaren."

He believes McLaren will be harshly penalised, now that the affair has spiralled into formal admissions and sackings by team figures, and incontestable fraud to be assessed by the World Motor Sport Council later this month.

100% agree with what he's saying here. he should be the FIA president.

[Jensonb]

The seemingly out-of-control 'lie-gate' scandal is the result of unprofessional stewarding in Formula One, according to regular FIA critic Sir Jackie Stewart.

The Scot, seemingly perpetually locked in a war of words with FIA President Max Mosley, said the entire affair could have been avoided if the governing body's officials on duty in Melbourne were better organised.

Stewart, a triple world champion and ex-team owner, said McLaren rightly radioed race control during the Melbourne race for quick clarification about whether Lewis Hamilton should or should not give the place back to Jarno Trulli.

"But he (Charlie Whiting) was apparently unavailable, trying to sort out the Sebastien Vettel problem," the 69-year-old, referring to the German's crash with Robert Kubica, told the Scottish newspaper the Herald.


"It seems strange that only one person has the authority to deal with these inquiries which could be result-changing in a multi-million pound sport,” Stewart continued.

"As it is, we now have a potentially serious state of affairs for McLaren."

He believes McLaren will be harshly penalised, now that the affair has spiralled into formal admissions and sackings by team figures, and incontestable fraud to be assessed by the World Motor Sport Council later this month.

100% agree with what he's saying here. he should be the FIA president.

FiA couldn't run a p**s up in a brewery

[racechick]

The seemingly out-of-control 'lie-gate' scandal is the result of unprofessional stewarding in Formula One, according to regular FIA critic Sir Jackie Stewart.

The Scot, seemingly perpetually locked in a war of words with FIA President Max Mosley, said the entire affair could have been avoided if the governing body's officials on duty in Melbourne were better organised.

Stewart, a triple world champion and ex-team owner, said McLaren rightly radioed race control during the Melbourne race for quick clarification about whether Lewis Hamilton should or should not give the place back to Jarno Trulli.

"But he (Charlie Whiting) was apparently unavailable, trying to sort out the Sebastien Vettel problem," the 69-year-old, referring to the German's crash with Robert Kubica, told the Scottish newspaper the Herald.


"It seems strange that only one person has the authority to deal with these inquiries which could be result-changing in a multi-million pound sport,” Stewart continued.

"As it is, we now have a potentially serious state of affairs for McLaren."

He believes McLaren will be harshly penalised, now that the affair has spiralled into formal admissions and sackings by team figures, and incontestable fraud to be assessed by the World Motor Sport Council later this month.

100% agree with what he's saying here. he should be the FIA president.

Yes someone speaks sense!! How refreshing.

[csrracer]

Jackie Stewart would be, by far, the best man to be running F1

[Stealthgate007]

There is never any clarity at the end of a race. Once the race is over, we all look to speculate who is going to get a penalty and grid positions in the next race.

Vettel and Kubica was a racing incident. They both passed and paid for the Superlicense test and can drive better than half of the field. They are experts in their arena.

someone tell me I am wrong about this

[Jensonb]

Jackie Stewart would be, by far, the best man to be running F1

I still don't understand what made people think having the same man having total control over both halves of the FiA was a good idea. Having a guy at the top is one thing, but there should be separate head honchos for each area.

There is never any clarity at the end of a race. Once the race is over, we all look to speculate who is going to get a penalty and grid positions in the next race.

Vettel and Kubica was a racing incident. They both passed and paid for the Superlicense test and can drive better than half of the field. They are experts in their arena.

someone tell me I am wrong about this

Okay...You are wrong about this.

[Gilles 27]

I don't normally agree with Jackie Stewart but I felt that the whole reason that the Liegate thing even occurred was because of ambiguity in the rules and ineffective enforcement of those rules during a race, both of which can be blamed on the FIA. McLaren shouldn't have even had an opportunity to lie, no decision should have been made by the stewards until video and radio evidence was available.
The diffuser thing also springs to mind, there really shouldn't be a loophole like that...

[Stealthgate007]

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Jackie Stewart would be, by far, the best man to be running F1

I still don't understand what made people think having the same man having total control over both halves of the FiA was a good idea. Having a guy at the top is one thing, but there should be separate head honchos for each area.

There is never any clarity at the end of a race. Once the race is over, we all look to speculate who is going to get a penalty and grid positions in the next race.

Vettel and Kubica was a racing incident. They both passed and paid for the Superlicense test and can drive better than half of the field. They are experts in their arena.

someone tell me I am wrong about this

Okay...You are wrong about this.

Thank God, I thought I was going crazy for a moment..

[Jensonb]

I don't normally agree with Jackie Stewart but I felt that the whole reason that the Liegate thing even occurred was because of ambiguity in the rules and ineffective enforcement of those rules during a race, both of which can be blamed on the FIA. McLaren shouldn't have even had an opportunity to lie, no decision should have been made by the stewards until video and radio evidence was available.
The diffuser thing also springs to mind, there really shouldn't be a loophole like that...

You can blame that on the 9 Team Principals not called Ross Brawn

[Gilles 27]

You can blame that on the 9 Team Principals not called Ross Brawn

I'm not with you, why do you say this...

[Jensonb]

You can blame that on the 9 Team Principals not called Ross Brawn

I'm not with you, why do you say this...

Oh, Ross identified the Diffuser loophole and made them aware of it early last year and suggested they work to close it and some other loopholes (Turning vane on the sidepod leading edges for instance). The others said no.

[Gilles 27]

Ah yes I remember that now. Silly really. Still back to the Lie - gate... there shouldn't be decisions made at the end of races that aren't based on evidence...

[McLaren Fan]

I think Formula One needs a similar system to what they have in the US which deals with problems such as what happened in Australia during the race.

[stonemonkey]

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Jackie Stewart would be, by far, the best man to be running F1

Not sure if I agree whith that although I totally agree with what he's saying. The teams cannot be certain of how individual officials will interperate events and the response given when teams have any question must be taken into account when making decisions afterwards and that should include a lack of or delayed response. I'm not excusing Mclaren of what they did but it is part of what led to the whole affair and also what led to what happened in Spa.

[csrracer]

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Jackie Stewart would be, by far, the best man to be running F1

Not sure if I agree whith that although I totally agree with what he's saying. The teams cannot be certain of how individual officials will interperate events and the response given when teams have any question must be taken into account when making decisions afterwards and that should include a lack of or delayed response. I'm not excusing Mclaren of what they did but it is part of what led to the whole affair and also what led to what happened in Spa.