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By darwin dali
#10504
At the specially-convened meeting of F1's World Council later this month, the FIA will ask McLaren how long suspended designer Mike Coughlan had in his possession confidential Ferrari information -- and how many colleagues he told.

As the media speculates as to how the powerful governing body will react to the tale of espionage, it has emerged that FIA sources believe Coughlan may have had the 780-pages of sensitive material since the beginning of the season.

Ferrari's Italian lawyers, meanwhile, also believe that McLaren Managing Director Jonathan Neale, who reports to Martin Whitmarsh and Ron Dennis, knew about Coughlan's possession of the dossier, as well as possibly some others.

It would, for example, answer the question as to why McLaren sought clarification on the rules for moveable floors earlier this year -- a perfectly legitimate enquiry that genuinely impacted title rival Ferrari's pace when it had to alter the underbody design of the F2007 racer.

It must be said that such clarifications are often requested by teams during any season. Last year, Renault went through the same process when the FIA decided that its mass-damper system had to be outlawed, a decision which cost the French team in overall speed before other modifications improved its pace.
This year, the FIA hardened its testing process when it was reported that certain teams were using flexible parts on their wings.

It remains however that McLaren's moveable floors question is among about 30 others that the FIA has compiled ahead of the meeting in Paris on July 26. Interestingly, it is believed that the governing body completed its list of questions, probing McLaren's affairs for the period March-July, only after reportedly viewing Coughlan's sworn affidavit outlining his knowledge of the affair.

An FIA spokesman reinforced the seriousness of the looming summit, which could result in hefty penalties for McLaren, including total exclusion from the World Championship.

He said: "We don't call an emergency meeting of the World Motor Sport Council lightly."
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By bmwpower
#10508
I just read that the other day. Like they said, at this time its only speculation but it doesn't look really good for McLaren. Like the FIA official said regarding McLaren's involvement, "We don't call an emergency meeting of the World Motor Sport Council lightly." Hoped this is not true for the spirit of the sport but if it is it could be a disaster for F1.
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By Whitehead
#10510
Would have been nice to go through a season without another 'scandal'. Am I right in saying that this was only brought to the FIA's attention when the photocopy boy realised what he was being asked to copy? Imagine there's a nice little earner in it from him.
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By darwin dali
#10514
Hoped this is not true for the spirit of the sport but if it is it could be a disaster for F1.


I'm not so sure that this would be a disaster. It could be quite the opposite: it could show that the FIA means business and is to clamp down on cheating. If they let McLaren go scotch free despite some incriminating evidence, now THAT would be a disaster.
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By bud
#10524
DD youve already made up your mind. You say youre not a Ferrari fan hahaha what ever grandpa
i guess McLaren has data from sauber aswell because they questioned their moveable floors also....

the FIA didnt get involved with the toyota matter, the courts decided there and the FIA should wait until this has gone through the courts before making any legal binding decision,
but yet again this is all playing out well for Ferrari. so similar to the tyre issues of 03!
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By darwin dali
#10525
I'm not - the closest to being a fan of, you could say is that I support BMW-Sauber (mostly for the Sauber part).
And bud, if it turns out that McLaren doesn't have a clean vest as you've been making it sound like all the time while proclaiming that Ferrari are always cheating, etc., etc. - I hope you'll eat crow for once and shut up about the sheep and all. Repeating it over and over doesn't make it truer, ya know?
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By Irv the Swerve
#10526
I'm not - the closest to being a fan of, you could say is that I support BMW-Sauber (mostly for the Sauber part).
And bud, if it turns out that McLaren doesn't have a clean vest as you've been making it sound like all the time while proclaiming that Ferrari are always cheating, etc., etc. - I hope you'll eat crow for once and shut up about the sheep and all. Repeating it over and over doesn't make it truer, ya know?


Here Here!
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By darwin dali
#10528
LH might hit a road bump on his way to the title:

Bernie Ecclestone, F1's promoter, has said the drivers, as unwitting parties, should not be penalised but FIA president Max Mosley insisted: "It is only in the most exceptional circumstances that a penalty for a team is different from a penalty for a driver."

Two years ago Jenson Button's third-place finish for BAR-Honda at San Marino was erased and he was banned from the next two races after a technical infringement. [remember the hidden fuel compartment?]

McLaren claim they had nothing to do with the Ferrari dossier but Mosley warned: "A team is responsible for its personnel."


Compared to the BAR infringement where they tried to bend a rule, this whole spy saga seems so much bigger. I mean, it compromises F1's integrity (or what's left of it) in a major way, I just can't see the FIA being lenient in any way or they'd lose their credibility (or again what's left of it) entirely. If there's any sign of wrongdoing, I'm sure the FIA will want to set an example and go after McLaren in a strict, though measured way (they can't afford losing the team for F1). Again, when compared to the sanctions imposed on BAR, I wouldn't rule out a ban for a few races if not for the entire season. A serious blow for LH.
In case McLaren gets banned, how about the following suggestion:
Assuming that everybody agrees that the drivers had nothing to do with it and don't really deserve to be punished, let them drive - not in a McLaren since they're banned, but in a Prodrive, a McLaren chassis and Mercedes engine run by David Richards to fill up the grid :)

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