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[Denthúl]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

[racechick]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

[Denthúl]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

[racechick]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

[Denthúl]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

Post-steward interviews, radio interviews etc.

[racechick]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

Post-steward interviews, radio interviews etc.

And you can mind read from these?

[Denthúl]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

Post-steward interviews, radio interviews etc.

And you can mind read from these?

Body language and the tonal variations of someone's voice.

Alternatively, could you read Lewis' mind in his apologetic interview with the press?

[racechick]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

Post-steward interviews, radio interviews etc.

And you can mind read from these?

Body language and the tonal variations of someone's voice.

Alternatively, could you read Lewis' mind in his apologetic interview with the press?

Fair point. I guess we wont agree on this one.

[Denthúl]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

Post-steward interviews, radio interviews etc.

And you can mind read from these?

Body language and the tonal variations of someone's voice.

Alternatively, could you read Lewis' mind in his apologetic interview with the press?

Fair point. I guess we wont agree on this one.

It's rare that we do.

[racechick]

That makes no sense whatsoever "Sorry" is an apology and yes Hamilton was misled. He was told by the Team to let Trulli by, but I took that as Mclaren "misled" him in what to say in front of the stewards.

If that makes no sense to you then you have no concept of what an apology is. "Sorry" is a word often used to express an apology. AN apology is the acceptance that one has done wrong and taking responsibility for it. By passing the buck to Dave, Hamilton failed to apologise.

And this "misled into lying" thing is tosh. How is one misled into lying? He knew it was a lie, if he is aged beyond infancy he knows lying is bad...In what way did they mislead him? The only logical conclusion to that is that they were saying they'd get away with it. And that is hardly redemption for Hamilton. It merely condemns him further.

It would also explain why it is he is so vague as to what the team did to compel him to lie against his apparently untarnished, pure as snow mind's better judgment.

He said he was sorry and unless he's up for an oscar, he was sorry. Why is that such a difficult concept to grasp? Do you not understand that after that it was out of hamilton's hands who took the buck? Would you prefer it if Ryan stayed and Lewis got sacked? The logic of some posts on here defies belief!

Personally, I'd have preferred it if both Ryan and Hamilton received the same level of punishment (assuming it was Ryan that started all of this). It's funny that Hamilton appeared to show no remorse until he was fully found-out by the stewards, though.

You mean no remorse was published by any media.
How do you kwno whether Hamilton felt any remorse? How does anyone know what went on behind closed doors at McLaren? Same level of punishment as Ryan?? So you reckon McLaren should have "parted company" with Hamilton?? Completely screwed themselves? Get real!!

Hamilton is not McLaren. Deal with it. He deserved the same level of punishment as Ryan. If I was part of the McLaren management, I would be asking serious questions right now. It is only since Hamilton joined the team that we've had these major scandals go on. Certainly the bosses at Mercedes will be asking questions, just like they were in 2007.

There was not even a look of remorse about him. Before the news was published that he was to be called back before the stewards, he looked as if he hadn't a care in the world, springy as ever. All that changed come Thursday and by Friday he had put on the sad look for the media. Do you really think his apology was all that geniuine? On the note of his apology, he omitted the person he perhaps should have apologised to the most! He didn't even mention Trulli until questioned about it, and even then it was nothing substantial.

Yes I do think his apology was genuine. Im not sure about this "not a care in the world , springy as ever" observation How can you assume to know how he was feeling? TV coverage didnt continue after the race so you wouldnt even have seen him to make this assumption.

Post-steward interviews, radio interviews etc.

And you can mind read from these?

Body language and the tonal variations of someone's voice.

Alternatively, could you read Lewis' mind in his apologetic interview with the press?

Fair point. I guess we wont agree on this one.

It's rare that we do.

[McLaren Fan]

Hamilton's "apology" was a cop out. He did not accept responsibility for what went on whatsoever. Hamilton did not look too distressed until the scandal came to light. Rather than being sorry for lying (or being mislead, as he would have us believe), he was sorry for being caught.

F1live: Other British newspapers, including the Daily Mail, are raising questions about McLaren Group Chairman Ron Dennis' involvement in the saga, as current Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh weighs up his own future in charge of the team.

It is suggested that Dennis may have spoken to the sacked Dave Ryan between the Australian stewards meeting and the one in Malaysia, and also that he ‘was strongly opposed’ to Hamilton's contrite apology in front of the world's media at Sepang.

The implication is that the 61-year-old, unlike Whitmarsh who was holidaying between the two races, could join Ryan in becoming a 'sacrificial lamb', leaving Whitmarsh and Hamilton able to continue as before.

"We really cannot comment on these things because we're now into a court situation," a spokesman said.

Both Hamilton and his father/manager attended a meeting at McLaren's Woking base on Tuesday.

Hamilton's immorality knows no bounds. It's bad enough that he's allowed a thirty-five year career man get sacked, now we have the horrific situation whereby the man who treated him like a father and actually got him to where he is today is in the firing line - and Dennis not evening running the team any more!

Hamilton is complicit in this scandal. Hamilton is complicit in giving the FIA and Ecclestone the excuse they so badly wanted to systematically destroy everything that Dennis stands for. Rather than feeling guilty and ashamed, all Hamilton is feeling like is passing the buck around left, right and centre.

[kerc]

Hamilton's "apology" was a cop out. He did not accept responsibility for what went on whatsoever. Hamilton did not look too distressed until the scandal came to light. Rather than being sorry for lying (or being mislead, as he would have us believe), he was sorry for being caught.

F1live: Other British newspapers, including the Daily Mail, are raising questions about McLaren Group Chairman Ron Dennis' involvement in the saga, as current Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh weighs up his own future in charge of the team.

It is suggested that Dennis may have spoken to the sacked Dave Ryan between the Australian stewards meeting and the one in Malaysia, and also that he ‘was strongly opposed’ to Hamilton's contrite apology in front of the world's media at Sepang.

The implication is that the 61-year-old, unlike Whitmarsh who was holidaying between the two races, could join Ryan in becoming a 'sacrificial lamb', leaving Whitmarsh and Hamilton able to continue as before.

"We really cannot comment on these things because we're now into a court situation," a spokesman said.

Both Hamilton and his father/manager attended a meeting at McLaren's Woking base on Tuesday.

Hamilton's immorality knows no bounds. It's bad enough that he's allowed a thirty-five year career man get sacked, now we have the horrific situation whereby the man who treated him like a father and actually got him to where he is today is in the firing line - and Dennis not evening running the team any more!

Hamilton is complicit in this scandal. Hamilton is complicit in giving the FIA and Ecclestone the excuse they so badly wanted to systematically destroy everything that Dennis stands for. Rather than feeling guilty and ashamed, all Hamilton is feeling like is passing the buck around left, right and centre.

As far as I know, Hamilton doesn't make any corporate decisions at McLaren.

[EwanM]

"I can't tell you how sorry I am"

[EwanM]

As far as I know, Hamilton doesn't make any corporate decisions at McLaren.

Well I think his dad and him think they can.

[McLaren Fan]

Well, it certainly doesn't look like that. At McLaren, there is mass cull of the management taking place, whilst Hamilton - the guilty party - stands safely aside.