Discuss the sport you love with other motorsport fans
If Hamilton could merely be pressured into doing something so blatantly stupid, then he is a complete tool.
Its not about that mate, hes not a fool its just pressure, like is said you can't say what you would do in that situation.
And if you think you can your fooling yourself.
And you're ignoring the bigger picture, Hamilton is the world champion driver, he more or less is McLaren at this stage. He knew what had been said earlier, and he'd have to have been a nitwit not to twig to the fact they'd be rumbled because he'd already told the real story. Pressure nothing, if he let Ryan tell him to lie and just did it he was being an idiot.
And I still can't see how even if you accept the idea that Mr. Ryan could "pressure" Hamilton into lying under those circumstances, that constitutes being "misled". What does that even mean? Are we to assume Dave told Hamilton that the FiA liked being lied to? Or that he told him "When they ask you if you let him past, you can say no because..." - actually, i can't even think of an implausible reason that would fit there.
If Hamilton could merely be pressured into doing something so blatantly stupid, then he is a complete tool.
Well he is just his Dad's puppet?
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
Its not about that mate, hes not a fool its just pressure, like is said you can't say what you would do in that situation.
And if you think you can your fooling yourself.
And you're ignoring the bigger picture, Hamilton is the world champion driver, he more or less is McLaren at this stage. He knew what had been said earlier, and he'd have to have been a nitwit not to twig to the fact they'd be rumbled because he'd already told the real story. Pressure nothing, if he let Ryan tell him to lie and just did it he was being an idiot.
And I still can't see how even if you accept the idea that Mr. Ryan could "pressure" Hamilton into lying under those circumstances, that constitutes being "misled". What does that even mean? Are we to assume Dave told Hamilton that the FiA liked being lied to? Or that he told him "When they ask you if you let him past, you can say no because..." - actually, i can't even think of an implausible reason that would fit there.
no, hes not an idiot he was just under pressure. he'd just got out of a race car, was proberly tired was gutted and worried about loosing position. Had to do Media interviews then he was summoned by the FIA on the way one of his managers said this is what where going to do on the way to a meeting with little time to discuss it and then during the meeting his boss started out saying somthing forcing hamilton to either show his boss up and cause more trouble or go along with it
Assumign thats the case of course i mean if it was Hamiltons idea then yes hes an idiot.
Some people seem to be basing their views on the story that Hamilton was 'mislead'. Anybody who doesn't think that sounds slightly suspicious needs a reality check.
Well what do you think Happened? like i've said i'm not sure but i can understand him being pressured into it, if that was the case
Its not about that mate, hes not a fool its just pressure, like is said you can't say what you would do in that situation.
And if you think you can your fooling yourself.
And you're ignoring the bigger picture, Hamilton is the world champion driver, he more or less is McLaren at this stage. He knew what had been said earlier, and he'd have to have been a nitwit not to twig to the fact they'd be rumbled because he'd already told the real story. Pressure nothing, if he let Ryan tell him to lie and just did it he was being an idiot.
And I still can't see how even if you accept the idea that Mr. Ryan could "pressure" Hamilton into lying under those circumstances, that constitutes being "misled". What does that even mean? Are we to assume Dave told Hamilton that the FiA liked being lied to? Or that he told him "When they ask you if you let him past, you can say no because..." - actually, i can't even think of an implausible reason that would fit there.
no, hes not an idiot he was just under pressure. he'd just got out of a race car, was proberly tired was gutted and worried about loosing position. Had to do Media interviews then he was summoned by the FIA on the way one of his managers said this is what where going to do on the way to a meeting with little time to discuss it and then during the meeting his boss started out saying somthing forcing hamilton to either show his boss up and cause more trouble or go along with it
Assumign thats the case of course i mean if it was Hamiltons idea then yes hes an idiot.
When under pressure, do you forget which is left and which is right..?
Some people seem to be basing their views on the story that Hamilton was 'mislead'. Anybody who doesn't think that sounds slightly suspicious needs a reality check.
Well what do you think Happened? like i've said i'm not sure but i can understand him being pressured into it, if that was the case
Hamilton's shown throughout his racing career he is extremely competative and will do anything to get the best result for himself. On top of that, he's a grown, mature man. I really do not find it convincing, therefore, that Hamilton was 'mislead' like a lamb by Ryan. Although it's only my opinion and not a proven fact, it seems more likely that this plan was concocted by the two of them somehow, borne out of frustration with the unclear regulations, botched communication between the pitwall and Hamilton and the inability to get in touch with race control. After the scandal emerged, McLaren stuck to their usual policy of protecting their drivers no matter what and took the blame on themselves. The team had to be seen to be taking the matter seriously by the FIA, so Ryan was singled out as the instigator of the lie.
Some people seem to be basing their views on the story that Hamilton was 'mislead'. Anybody who doesn't think that sounds slightly suspicious needs a reality check.
Well what do you think Happened? like i've said i'm not sure but i can understand him being pressured into it, if that was the case
Hamilton's shown throughout his racing career he is extremely competative and will do anything to get the best result for himself. On top of that, he's a grown, mature man. I really do not find it convincing, therefore, that Hamilton was 'mislead' like a lamb by Ryan. Although it's only my opinion and not a proven fact, it seems more likely that this plan was concocted by the two of them somehow, borne out of frustration with the unclear regulations, botched communication between the pitwall and Hamilton and the inability to get in touch with race control. After the scandal emerged, McLaren stuck to their usual policy of protecting their drivers no matter what and took the blame on themselves. The team had to be seen to be taking the matter seriously by the FIA, so Ryan was singled out as the instigator of the lie.
Yeh that could be true but i'm torn slightly after seeing hamiltons applogy it was either real or really good acting.
Its not about that mate, hes not a fool its just pressure, like is said you can't say what you would do in that situation.
And if you think you can your fooling yourself.
And you're ignoring the bigger picture, Hamilton is the world champion driver, he more or less is McLaren at this stage. He knew what had been said earlier, and he'd have to have been a nitwit not to twig to the fact they'd be rumbled because he'd already told the real story. Pressure nothing, if he let Ryan tell him to lie and just did it he was being an idiot.
And I still can't see how even if you accept the idea that Mr. Ryan could "pressure" Hamilton into lying under those circumstances, that constitutes being "misled". What does that even mean? Are we to assume Dave told Hamilton that the FiA liked being lied to? Or that he told him "When they ask you if you let him past, you can say no because..." - actually, i can't even think of an implausible reason that would fit there.
no, hes not an idiot he was just under pressure. he'd just got out of a race car, was proberly tired was gutted and worried about loosing position. Had to do Media interviews then he was summoned by the FIA on the way one of his managers said this is what where going to do on the way to a meeting with little time to discuss it and then during the meeting his boss started out saying somthing forcing hamilton to either show his boss up and cause more trouble or go along with it
Assumign thats the case of course i mean if it was Hamiltons idea then yes hes an idiot.
Some people seem to be basing their views on the story that Hamilton was 'mislead'. Anybody who doesn't think that sounds slightly suspicious needs a reality check.
Well what do you think Happened? like i've said i'm not sure but i can understand him being pressured into it, if that was the case
Hamilton's shown throughout his racing career he is extremely competative and will do anything to get the best result for himself. On top of that, he's a grown, mature man. I really do not find it convincing, therefore, that Hamilton was 'mislead' like a lamb by Ryan. Although it's only my opinion and not a proven fact, it seems more likely that this plan was concocted by the two of them somehow, borne out of frustration with the unclear regulations, botched communication between the pitwall and Hamilton and the inability to get in touch with race control. After the scandal emerged, McLaren stuck to their usual policy of protecting their drivers no matter what and took the blame on themselves. The team had to be seen to be taking the matter seriously by the FIA, so Ryan was singled out as the instigator of the lie.
Yeh that could be true but i'm torn slightly after seeing hamiltons applogy it was either real or really good acting.
Here's a Q for you man, Who do you care about more? Mclaren or Hamilton?
Not only that, when the team was under the microscope after the spy scandal and when Ecclestone and the FIA are not your best friends, you don't provide them with the ammunition they need to shoot you!
Mclaren, but i'm kinda assuming everything Mclaren have said is true about davey leading hamilton. And because i've been in a situation like that i can relate?
Its not about that mate, hes not a fool its just pressure, like is said you can't say what you would do in that situation.
And if you think you can your fooling yourself.
And you're ignoring the bigger picture, Hamilton is the world champion driver, he more or less is McLaren at this stage. He knew what had been said earlier, and he'd have to have been a nitwit not to twig to the fact they'd be rumbled because he'd already told the real story. Pressure nothing, if he let Ryan tell him to lie and just did it he was being an idiot.
And I still can't see how even if you accept the idea that Mr. Ryan could "pressure" Hamilton into lying under those circumstances, that constitutes being "misled". What does that even mean? Are we to assume Dave told Hamilton that the FiA liked being lied to? Or that he told him "When they ask you if you let him past, you can say no because..." - actually, i can't even think of an implausible reason that would fit there.
no, hes not an idiot he was just under pressure. he'd just got out of a race car, was proberly tired was gutted and worried about loosing position. Had to do Media interviews then he was summoned by the FIA on the way one of his managers said this is what where going to do on the way to a meeting with little time to discuss it and then during the meeting his boss started out saying somthing forcing hamilton to either show his boss up and cause more trouble or go along with it
Assumign thats the case of course i mean if it was Hamiltons idea then yes hes an idiot.
No, he's an idiot either way. All he had to do was say to Dave "No, that's not going to fly" when Mr. Ryan proposed it on the way and point out what he'd said to the Press. No pressure, they would have kept an undisputed 4th place and all would be hunky-dory. No matter what the circumstances, to lie to the FiA, having minutes earlier told the truth to a TV Camera, is preposterous. Showing up his "boss" was the least of his worries, as the fallout demonstrates. You just don't lie to the judge when you knowingly told the truth on tape. It's pointless, stupid and only leads to trouble.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. Not only that, when the team was under the microscope after the spy scandal and when Ecclestone and the FIA are not your best friends, you don't provide them with the ammunition they need to shoot you!
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. See our F1 related articles too!
