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Oh no........I just realised how that sounded. I meant it's about time I submitted a good post ...............Not about time you agreed 



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sax2basix wrote:Oh no........I just realised how that sounded. I meant it's about time I submitted a good post ...............Not about time you agreed

headless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Yep. They got it badly wrong. Think they know that
Jensonb wrote:Never before in history has the phrase "withheld information" been as improperly used as it is throughout this thread.Yup, euphemisms galore
Deliberately answering a direct, yes or no question where the true answer is "Yes" with a "No" is lying. Withholding information would be explaining something and leaving out a detail. Which could still be called lying depending on the detail.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
headless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Hmmmmm................that's so true. Well in hindsight, it is when you get caught telling porkies. When you get away with it (as many do) it's maybe not the case!!!!
racechick wrote:It should stop others bullshitting in the futureheadless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Yep. They got it badly wrong. Think they know that
headless wrote:No, it'll just make them try harder not to get caughtracechick wrote:It should stop others bullshitting in the futureheadless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Yep. They got it badly wrong. Think they know that

Denthúl wrote:headless wrote:No, it'll just make them try harder not to get caughtracechick wrote:It should stop others bullshitting in the futureheadless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Yep. They got it badly wrong. Think they know that
Denthúl wrote:Still an improvement.headless wrote:No, it'll just make them try harder not to get caughtracechick wrote:It should stop others bullshitting in the futureheadless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Yep. They got it badly wrong. Think they know that
headless wrote:A Haaaaa..............now were getting down to the nitty gritty. One more step and your feet will be firmly on the groundDenthúl wrote:Still an improvement.headless wrote:No, it'll just make them try harder not to get caughtracechick wrote:It should stop others bullshitting in the futureheadless wrote:Honesty is the best policy.Yep. They got it badly wrong. Think they know that
Hamilton considered quitting over Oz GPhttp://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/74279" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By Simon Strang Saturday, April 4th 2009, 23:43 GMT
Lewis Hamilton considered quitting McLaren, and even Formula 1, over the controversy surrounding his exclusion from last week's Australian Grand Prix, according to a report in The Sunday Times newspaper.
The newspaper claims that the world champion was talked out of walking away from the sport by FIA president Max Mosley, after Hamilton contacted the governing body to express his frustration that McLaren had misled him over the affair.
The Briton was disqualified from the Melbourne results after the stewards deemed he and McLaren sporting director Dave Ryan had 'deliberately misled' them about a radio conversation that took place after he had passed Toyota driver Jarno Trulli behind the safety car.
Hamilton and his father Anthony are reported to have been furious that his public perception had been tarnished by the affair, and both apparently insisted McLaren allow him to take the unprecendented step of holding a press conference in the FIA media centre so he could come clean about the situation.
He subsequently made an emotional open apology to the stewards and his fans. "I was misled and that is the way it went," he told the press. "I would like to say a big sorry to all my fans who have believed in me, who have supported me for years, who I showed who I am for the past three years, and it is who I am. I am not a liar. I am not a dishonest person.
Bernie Ecclestone told the Daily Mail: "Lewis is terribly upset but his father is even more upset having his son called a cheat. Anthony has brought Lewis up not to be like that and he is disappointed somebody has called him a liar when he isn't deliberately lying."
Hamilton's future with McLaren now remains unclear. BBC commentator Martin Brundle pointed out in his Sunday Times column today that the 24-year-old could walk free from his multi-year contract citing a breach on the team's behalf.
"McLaren could also now be perceived to be in breach of Lewis's contract for bringing him into disrepute especially as a senior team member has taken the whole rap," said Brundle, who raced for McLaren in 1994. "This would make him a free agent if he wanted to move teams."
Brundle also suggested that the scandal may stay with Hamilton forever. "The Briton's reputation has understandably taken a battering but a sense of perspective is required here.
"He will recover from this in time but he will have to live with the stigma in perpetuity, just as [Michael] Schumacher does. It will always be mentioned in his epitaph."
EwmanM wrote:Hamilton considered quitting over Oz GPhttp://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/74279" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By Simon Strang Saturday, April 4th 2009, 23:43 GMT
Lewis Hamilton considered quitting McLaren, and even Formula 1, over the controversy surrounding his exclusion from last week's Australian Grand Prix, according to a report in The Sunday Times newspaper.
The newspaper claims that the world champion was talked out of walking away from the sport by FIA president Max Mosley, after Hamilton contacted the governing body to express his frustration that McLaren had misled him over the affair.
The Briton was disqualified from the Melbourne results after the stewards deemed he and McLaren sporting director Dave Ryan had 'deliberately misled' them about a radio conversation that took place after he had passed Toyota driver Jarno Trulli behind the safety car.
Hamilton and his father Anthony are reported to have been furious that his public perception had been tarnished by the affair, and both apparently insisted McLaren allow him to take the unprecendented step of holding a press conference in the FIA media centre so he could come clean about the situation.
He subsequently made an emotional open apology to the stewards and his fans. "I was misled and that is the way it went," he told the press. "I would like to say a big sorry to all my fans who have believed in me, who have supported me for years, who I showed who I am for the past three years, and it is who I am. I am not a liar. I am not a dishonest person.
Bernie Ecclestone told the Daily Mail: "Lewis is terribly upset but his father is even more upset having his son called a cheat. Anthony has brought Lewis up not to be like that and he is disappointed somebody has called him a liar when he isn't deliberately lying."
Hamilton's future with McLaren now remains unclear. BBC commentator Martin Brundle pointed out in his Sunday Times column today that the 24-year-old could walk free from his multi-year contract citing a breach on the team's behalf.
"McLaren could also now be perceived to be in breach of Lewis's contract for bringing him into disrepute especially as a senior team member has taken the whole rap," said Brundle, who raced for McLaren in 1994. "This would make him a free agent if he wanted to move teams."
Brundle also suggested that the scandal may stay with Hamilton forever. "The Briton's reputation has understandably taken a battering but a sense of perspective is required here.
"He will recover from this in time but he will have to live with the stigma in perpetuity, just as [Michael] Schumacher does. It will always be mentioned in his epitaph."
Oh dear god, more Media filth or did Hamilton really consider walking away?
So much for being a Team Player. The man obviously only thinks of himself (except during Stewards meetings or his dad.)

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