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[Frosty]

I think I remember somebody (I think it was Racechick) posting the FIA's fax number...

Gentleman, any plans?

33 1 43 12 44 66: I think that is the fax number!

[Denthúl]

I think I remember somebody (I think it was Racechick) posting the FIA's fax number...

Gentleman, any plans?

Only place I can fax stuff from is work, and if they found out there could be consequences. I'll just post a letter. Using a signed-for delivery service

Or we could give out their fax number to companies who send junk faxes?

What are you going to put in your letter? Something criminal I hope which will stirr Max right up.

Just asking that, in the interest of total transparency, transcripts of the initial meeting between Jarno Trulli, Lewis Hamilton and the stewards present at Albert Park are posted along with all the currently available information.

[bmwpower]

Why are some people talking about this situation and comparing to last year?? Last year's McLaren car was different, this year's car doesn't even belong in top 7 or 8. We ALL KNOW Hamilton doesn't even belong top 10 places in Australia with his car yet he got fourth due to other circumstances, so he lost a place that wasn't his in the first place, is this gonna affect Hamilton's championship run this year?? do you think the McLaren can turn it around fast enough to fight for the Championship??

[Gaz]

Why are some people talking about this situation and comparing to last year?? Last year's McLaren car was different, this year's car doesn't even belong in top 7 or 8. We ALL KNOW Hamilton doesn't even belong top 10 places in Australia with his car yet he got fourth due to other circumstances, so he lost a place that wasn't his in the first place, is this gonna affect Hamilton's championship run this year?? do you think the McLaren can turn it around fast enough to fight for the Championship??

he overtook 8 people...

so before you spout on about that, he earned that place and the FIA took it from him because they hate Mclaren if a Ferrari driver when thought he same circumstances then it would of been overlooked.

[Malibu327]

Here we go....

[Jensonb]

I'll leave you to your discussion because I don't think I have much to add. But I will say this:

Hamilton's disqualification has not been applied to the FF1WDC because it's a matter between him and the FiA, so irrelevant to our Championship.

Fair enough. And the rescinded penalty?

The result of the current poll will be the result as far as the FF1WC is concerned. As it stands, Trulli P3 and Hamilton P4

[Tony_sa]

Here we go....

dont take note .... all of them is in denial......

[Denthúl]

Why are some people talking about this situation and comparing to last year?? Last year's McLaren car was different, this year's car doesn't even belong in top 7 or 8. We ALL KNOW Hamilton doesn't even belong top 10 places in Australia with his car yet he got fourth due to other circumstances, so he lost a place that wasn't his in the first place, is this gonna affect Hamilton's championship run this year?? do you think the McLaren can turn it around fast enough to fight for the Championship??

he overtook 8 people...

so before you spout on about that, he earned that place and the FIA took it from him because they hate Mclaren if a Ferrari driver when thought he same circumstances then it would of been overlooked.

No, it wouldn't. I really think that you are taking this anti-McLaren thing way too far. They took the place from him on the grounds that he gave incorrect/inaccurate information to the stewards in a deliberate attempt to mislead them. If they really hated McLaren that much, they wouldn't have penalised Trulli in the first place. In fact, they probably would've found issues with McLaren's KERS system, seeing as it's so effective. Furthermore, if they liked Ferrari that much, then penalties such as Fuji 2008, Singapore 2008, Monaco 2008, Fuji 2007 would not have been handed out.

Actually think about what you're saying, please.

[Malibu327]

Ha! Good luck with that...

[texasmr2]

if a Ferrari driver when thought he same circumstances then it would of been overlooked.

Should we start a McLaren forum as they are saints and can never be questioned????

[TheOak]

Why are some people talking about this situation and comparing to last year?? Last year's McLaren car was different, this year's car doesn't even belong in top 7 or 8. We ALL KNOW Hamilton doesn't even belong top 10 places in Australia with his car yet he got fourth due to other circumstances, so he lost a place that wasn't his in the first place, is this gonna affect Hamilton's championship run this year?? do you think the McLaren can turn it around fast enough to fight for the Championship??

he overtook 8 people...

so before you spout on about that, he earned that place and the FIA took it from him because they hate Mclaren if a Ferrari driver when thought he same circumstances then it would of been overlooked.

buahhahaaa now that's funny. But seriously, you are just taking the piss aren't you?

[Denthúl]

Some footage of Hamilton slowing. Quite a speed difference, to be honest, and it's a pretty quick drop from decent pace to low pace. Staying off the racing line, too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 979304.stm

[Tony_sa]

Why are some people talking about this situation and comparing to last year?? Last year's McLaren car was different, this year's car doesn't even belong in top 7 or 8. We ALL KNOW Hamilton doesn't even belong top 10 places in Australia with his car yet he got fourth due to other circumstances, so he lost a place that wasn't his in the first place, is this gonna affect Hamilton's championship run this year?? do you think the McLaren can turn it around fast enough to fight for the Championship??

he overtook 8 people...

so before you spout on about that, he earned that place and the FIA took it from him because they hate Mclaren if a Ferrari driver when thought he same circumstances then it would of been overlooked.

buahhahaaa now that's funny. But seriously, you are just taking the piss aren't you?

dont be so hard on the longbow..... "he passed 8 people" 2 torro's 1 broken mclaren 2 broken red cars and a couple slow cars. I did not see him overtake anybody.... oh soory ....forgot about trulli - he overtook trulli. !!! ..twice !!

[bmwpower]

Why are some people talking about this situation and comparing to last year?? Last year's McLaren car was different, this year's car doesn't even belong in top 7 or 8. We ALL KNOW Hamilton doesn't even belong top 10 places in Australia with his car yet he got fourth due to other circumstances, so he lost a place that wasn't his in the first place, is this gonna affect Hamilton's championship run this year?? do you think the McLaren can turn it around fast enough to fight for the Championship??

he overtook 8 people...

so before you spout on about that, he earned that place and the FIA took it from him because they hate Mclaren if a Ferrari driver when thought he same circumstances then it would of been overlooked.

Name that 8 "fast" cars he OVERTOOK

[2Del]

First post/new member. Can't be silent on this; will try to keep it short.

I may be done with F1 after this. I said the same thing last year after the '08 Spa scandal but still came back.

Hamilton didn't lie about the events on track in '08 but was still penalized despite "following the rules." This time he "lied?" and was punished but Trulli got to keep 3rd spot despite confirming he passed Hamilton under safety. I can't think of any other sport where what the contenders say overrides what they do on the track/field/etc. So why the inconsistency when ruling against drivers; lies or not?

A lot of this has probably already been stated but this time Hamilton only let Trulli pass in an attempt to MEET the regulations (can't blame him after what happened last year) and still loses completely. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. I'd recommend he just drive and think of nothing else the rest of the season since he'll be treated the same either way. Should make for a less stressful year. Hell, I think even Ron Dennis' stepping aside had to do with much of the stress over the past 2 seasons.

If I don't bother to watch anymore at least I'll save some money. My cable company (Comcast) only offers Speed (NOT in HD!) as part of an $8/mth sports pack. Add to that the roughly 15 bucks more for the dvr box just for access to that sports pack and watching F1 has not been a cheap each month. Guess I'll go back to downloading torrents of the races while dodging spoilers of the results as I did years ago. Maybe I'll catch a few of the races on Fox instead.