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[darwin dali]

With McLaren losing all constructors points for this season, they lose the title, sure. But that's just the beginning of it.
They lose all their TV money (ballpark $50-60m) which is deductible from the $100m fine - nevertheless, the total loss just from that remains the full $100m.
As the last of the constructors in 11th position, they lose their privileged and generous pit allocation: instead of 5 garages near the front, they'll get 2 garages next to Spyker (or whatever they'll be called by then ). Their monstrously huge hospitality center won't fit anywhere. Which might be a blessing in disguise because they will also have to pay for all their transportation costs and so they would save some dough if they didn't shlepp that thing all around Europe. So basically they'll have to slim down and squeeze into a much smaller dress next year - could be a problem for Haug

[Fact Man]

Wow, you seem so fired up after the verdict. I mean you can't stop from posting your s***. Are you so excited like a little school girl. If you are driven by justice and fairness, than where was your consciousness all the years when Ferrari/MS where cheating their way into winning GP and Championships! You are Pathetic.

[darwin dali]

Hm, you seem to go back and forth between

Anger stage: Frustrated outpouring of bottled-up emotion

and

Bargaining stage: Seeking in vain for a way out.


This pattern of transgressions and corruption that has (so far) been revealed to have occurred within the McLaren team is unprecedented and dwarfing ANY transgressions by any team.
You're in denial and reheating those old hats in a weak attempt to what? Justify your idolized team's despicable actions? Now THAT is pathetic. Take it on your chin man and don't try to weasel your way out...

[aboldero]

they'll probably get around that by saying that although the team is not allowed recognition in the history books for finishing first, or allowed the prize money, they'll still be allowed to have the place at the top of the pitlane due to the face that they did actually finish there and they ARE on of the top teams...

but just out of interest, the additional evidence was emails between drivers on the weight distribution of the ferrari's at a test... but the dossier could not possibly have held that detail, as the weight distribution can be changed in seconds.. and is, during a test, so that information MUST have been provided to them DURING the test, and is irrelevant to the charges that had been put forward of making use of the dossier of Ferrari information..

i've worked in the F1 paddock and know that rival team members talk all the time, and a piece of information like that could have been passed by any number of team members at any time, and would not have been upto date in any dossier, because it's so quick and easy to change

[darwin dali]

There where many, many phone calls and sms text messages exchanged, especially during tests and just before and during race weekends.

[Mikep99]

Seeing that McLaren are guilty. They should be made to change the Livery on the car for the last few races, to honour there engineering partners.



McLarens new shirt.



Message from Ferrari




Sorry could not resist.

[ArtHowe]

You should have tried harder, Mikep99!

[Mikep99]

You should have tried harder, Mikep99!

What about this one mate.




But I must admit its not mine.