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[darwin dali]

...that they sequenced the bonobo genome

Nice write up and smack in the field of my expertise (used to study them bonobos)

[stonemonkey]

...that they sequenced the bonobo genome

Nice write up and smack in the field of my expertise (used to study them bonobos)

Did you ever get the chance to study them in the wild?

[darwin dali]

...that they sequenced the bonobo genome

Nice write up and smack in the field of my expertise (used to study them bonobos)

Did you ever get the chance to study them in the wild?

Nope, only the ones in all the zoos here in the US. Hormones and behavior, so lots of observations, lots of urine and fecal sample collection (way too tough in the wild) and then lots of sample analysis in the lab.

[stonemonkey]

Harder to take the piss when they're not locked up.

Cool though, well some of it anyway.

[What's Burning?]

...that they sequenced the bonobo genome

Nice write up and smack in the field of my expertise (used to study them bonobos)

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[darwin dali]

...that they sequenced the bonobo genome

Nice write up and smack in the field of my expertise (used to study them bonobos)

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[stonemonkey]

They know how to party, I take it there's not many problems getting them to breed in captivity.

[darwin dali]

They know how to party, I take it there's not many problems getting them to breed in captivity.

Actually there are! Most of the going-ons is non-reproductive schmex. The interbirth interval is between 4 and 6 years, which is very long. Two main reasons: it takes females a while to start hormonally cycling postpartum (or they don't cycle 'regularly' for a long time) AND females have the pants on and some are very choosy with the males.

[stonemonkey]

Are they like that in captivity and the wild though?

[What's Burning?]

They know how to party, I take it there's not many problems getting them to breed in captivity.

Actually there are! Most of the going-ons is non-reproductive schmex. The interbirth interval is between 4 and 6 years, which is very long. Two main reasons: it takes females a while to start hormonally cycling postpartum (or they don't cycle 'regularly' for a long time) AND females have the pants on and some are very choosy with the males.

That sound just like going to a club... is there a Snooky bonobo?

[darwin dali]

Are they like that in captivity and the wild though?

Yeah, interbirth intervals are long in the wild as well. The situation there is compounded by the poaching and the bushmeat crisis and civil wars. Estimates for the entire bonobo population in Congo (formerly Zaire) have gone from around 50,000 in the early 90' to less than 5,000 now after the wars!
You take all the great apes together (chimps, gorillas, orang-utans and bonobos) in the world, you could easily fit them in a football stadium.
In captivity, the situation is also bad because the world zoo population of bonobos is around 200 - that's not nearly enough to maintain a sufficient genetic diversity beyond 3 generations even though individuals are exchanged among zoos according to carefully planned studbook procedures in order to keep the captive population viable for as long as possible.

[What's Burning?]

Are they like that in captivity and the wild though?

Yeah, interbirth intervals are long in the wild as well. The situation there is compounded by the poaching and the bushmeat crisis and civil wars. Estimates for the entire bonobo population in Congo (formerly Zaire) have gone from around 50,000 in the early 90' to less than 5,000 now after the wars!
You take all the great apes together (chimps, gorillas, orang-utans and bonobos) in the world, you could easily fit them in a football stadium.
In captivity, the situation is also bad because the world zoo population of bonobos is around 200 - that's not nearly enough to maintain a sufficient genetic diversity beyond 3 generations even though individuals are exchanged among zoos according to carefully planned studbook procedures in order to keep the captive population viable for as long as possible.

That sounds just like match.com for bonobos.

[darwin dali]

Are they like that in captivity and the wild though?

Yeah, interbirth intervals are long in the wild as well. The situation there is compounded by the poaching and the bushmeat crisis and civil wars. Estimates for the entire bonobo population in Congo (formerly Zaire) have gone from around 50,000 in the early 90' to less than 5,000 now after the wars!
You take all the great apes together (chimps, gorillas, orang-utans and bonobos) in the world, you could easily fit them in a football stadium.
In captivity, the situation is also bad because the world zoo population of bonobos is around 200 - that's not nearly enough to maintain a sufficient genetic diversity beyond 3 generations even though individuals are exchanged among zoos according to carefully planned studbook procedures in order to keep the captive population viable for as long as possible.

That sounds just like match.com for bonobos.

More like arranged marriages in India

[What's Burning?]

So I remember reading something a long time ago that bonobos were the only other primate that had recreational schmex, that they were the only other primate to copulate face to face and that they masturbated, had gay and lesbian schmex, even the kiddies got into to it.

Coming to think of it, they sound just like the regular clientele of the dungeon.

[darwin dali]

So I remember reading something a long time ago that bonobos were the only other primate that had recreational schmex, that they were the only other primate to copulate face to face and that they masturbated, had gay and lesbian schmex, even the kiddies got into to it.

Coming to think of it, they sound just like the regular clientele of the dungeon.

Not the only ones by a long shot - you should see young orang-utan females and what they can do. Face-to-face occurs in other great apes as well, just not as frequently as in bonobos. Schmex in bonobos is very much a social tool to reduce tension in the group and reinforce friendships. And don't get me started on same-sex intercourse: happens all the time in all kinds of animals. E.g., it was kinda funny and almost tragic to see two 'monogamous' ganders form a bonded couple for quite some time until one of them cheated with a goose and the cuckold then getting rather jealous - drama on the lake...