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By Hammer278
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Lewis Hamilton said he was disappointed to miss out on pole position for tomorrow's Malaysian Grand Prix.

Having looked strong in FP3 Hamilton failed to replicate that pace when rain fell during the final part of qualifying, eventually securing fourth on the grid. Hamilton did have the benefit of being the final driver to start a lap as the track dried out but he said he was unable to improve because he was still circulating on the same set of tyre from the start of Q3.

"I have to go and speak to the team about whether they regret it or not, but for me it's just the way it is," Hamilton said. "Of course putting new tyres on was obviously the way to go; our strategy was to stay out. We thought it would dry out more and it would work in our favour but it didn't.

"I want to be pole, so initially when you get out of the car of course you don't think you're happy or anything. I was working to get pole position - as we were as a team - but we're a little bit further back than what we were hoping for. But it's motor racing, everyone's in the same boat and tomorrow there's lots of positive to take out of today and yesterday. So I'm excited about the race."

Focusing on those positives Hamilton believes Mercedes' long run pace is strong for the grand prix.


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It was a strategic mistake by Merc, looks like Lewis wanted to come in. Hindsight is always wonderful, but if you see the lead Redbull and Ferrari driver doing something different, I'd mirror it. Those guys normally get things right for their lead drivers.

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Rosberg, however, says it isn't affecting his confidence. When it was put to him that Hamilton has a ferocious reputation in qualifying, Rosberg replied: "Very ferocious, yeah!

"For sure, I knew it was going to be tough, that's what I expected, but that's cool. That's what I'm here for - challenges like that - and I know how quick Lewis is. I raced him in go karts so it's no surprise really until now for me, but I'm still confident that I can give him a good run for his money."

With Mercedes having struggled with excessive tyre wear in recent seasons, Rosberg said it is an area the team has improved but that he isn't finding tyre conservation any easier this year.

"No, not necessarily, it's just as big a challenge. For me it's an interesting challenge, it really requires a lot of thought and for the engineers also to get the most out of it. And it gives us good racing so for now it's a good thing.

"For sure our car is better this year so it makes a lot of things easier, but tyre management in every situation if you do a good job with what you have you're going to do better in the race. It's a similarly large challenge at the moment as it was last year, but of course our car is better overall."


I'm liking this partnership more than the Mika/David partnership already. Just have to wait for Rosberg to get his first win this season to start a That's Nico Rosberg thread. :drink:
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By bud
#351197
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:
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By SingaporeSling
#351198
I'd be quite positive about Mercs speed. Rosberg had fastest sector times in S2 & S3, and in S1 he was 2nd fastest only behind Kimi. So the speed is there, not sure how much of his last fast lap was ruined by Kimi, maybe just enough to ruin his pole.

edit; oops that was sector times for the whole qualifications, including fast times in Q2 in dry conditions.
By Hammer278
#351208
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


For a team still newish in strategic thinking at the sharp end where playing safe is never enough, these slips up can be excused....unlike teams that have been doing it for 50 years. Which is why I say their mistake was not mirroring what Ferrari and Redbull were doing. :hehe:
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By racechick
#351211
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


What's to ridicule? If the track had dried a bit more they'd have been ok they gambled the wrong way. Fourth still isn't bad, pole would have been better. They have more new inters if its wet tomorrow.
I wasn't aware Mclaren did a wrong strategy today and were ridiculed?i thought they'd be quicker on the inters than they were. Did they not change to new tyres either?
By Hammer278
#351218
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


What's to ridicule? If the track had dried a bit more they'd have been ok they gambled the wrong way. Fourth still isn't bad, pole would have been better. They have more new inters if its wet tomorrow.
I wasn't aware Mclaren did a wrong strategy today and were ridiculed?i thought they'd be quicker on the inters than they were. Did they not change to new tyres either?


Good question, I would think Jenson "The Thinker" Button would've definitely done the right thing in changing conditions today. But to take a quote from his post race interview: "..but I couldn't find any grip on the inter."
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By LewEngBridewell
#351245
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


What's to ridicule? If the track had dried a bit more they'd have been ok they gambled the wrong way. Fourth still isn't bad, pole would have been better. They have more new inters if its wet tomorrow.
I wasn't aware Mclaren did a wrong strategy today and were ridiculed?i thought they'd be quicker on the inters than they were. Did they not change to new tyres either?


I think bud was referring to the amount of times McLaren were blasted by members here for strategic errors in the past which affected Lewis.
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By darwin dali
#351302
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


For a team still newish in strategic thinking at the sharp end where playing safe is never enough, these slips up can be excused....unlike teams that have been doing it for 50 years. Which is why I say their mistake was not mirroring what Ferrari and Redbull were doing. :hehe:

Ah, c'mon, Ross Brawn is one of the most experienced strategists there is in F1!
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By myownalias
#351311
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:

I have to admit that this did make me chuckle... while being very factual; as DD pointed out; Ross Brawn is an old master when it comes to strategy!
By Hammer278
#351313
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


For a team still newish in strategic thinking at the sharp end where playing safe is never enough, these slips up can be excused....unlike teams that have been doing it for 50 years. Which is why I say their mistake was not mirroring what Ferrari and Redbull were doing. :hehe:

Ah, c'mon, Ross Brawn is one of the most experienced strategists there is in F1!


He was able to focus solely on strategy during the sessions at Ferrari, at Mercedes he is Team Principal. It does change things a bit on how the job and focus is divided.

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Ross Brawn, team principal
"An exciting qualifying session this afternoon with the threat of the weather conditions changing. The car was well balanced on both dry compounds and the intermediate tyres, and we made a pretty good job of judging the conditions. Clearly there was an opportunity at the end to put a second set of intermediates on and potentially go faster but it could have gone either way. Both Lewis and Nico are in good positions for the race and the car seems to be in reasonable shape so we look forward to tomorrow and whatever the weather decides to throw at us."

Toto Wolff, executive director
"That was a tricky qualifying session, particularly in Q3 when it may have been better to run a second set of new intermediate tyres - but it's easy to be wise after the fact. The reality today is that we have shown our trend is positive, we got a solid result with both cars in the top six and the team delivered a solid performance. We have spent the entire weekend working on our performance for Sunday, not Saturday, and we hope that we can confirm our positive trend tomorrow."

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It's agreed that their decision wasn't the best, but that's from hindsight. It could've gone either way like Brawn said...anyway I'm really looking forward to a dry race tomorrow. This tyre gambling bullsh*t is getting frustrating already.
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By racechick
#351342
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


What's to ridicule? If the track had dried a bit more they'd have been ok they gambled the wrong way. Fourth still isn't bad, pole would have been better. They have more new inters if its wet tomorrow.
I wasn't aware Mclaren did a wrong strategy today and were ridiculed?i thought they'd be quicker on the inters than they were. Did they not change to new tyres either?


I think bud was referring to the amount of times McLaren were blasted by members here for strategic errors in the past which affected Lewis.


When you make strategic decisions that favour one driver and disadvantage another, you tend to get grief from the supporters of the driver who is disadvantaged. When you make a strategic decision that may work out / may not regardless of the driver....well you win some , you lose some, name of the game. :twisted:
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By bud
#351392
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


What's to ridicule? If the track had dried a bit more they'd have been ok they gambled the wrong way. Fourth still isn't bad, pole would have been better. They have more new inters if its wet tomorrow.
I wasn't aware Mclaren did a wrong strategy today and were ridiculed?i thought they'd be quicker on the inters than they were. Did they not change to new tyres either?


Oh so a gamble by Merc is okay but when McLaren do it it's incompetence...

Hammer this team "Brackley F1" are hardly new, only their current name is new! Mercedes did not start from scratch, they started with the reigning constructor champion actually...
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By racechick
#351395
I'd say only incompetence when every Tom sausage and Harry can see its a stupid decision and is screaming at the TV. In 50/ 50 situations fair enough.
By CookinFlat6
#351397
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


No strategic mistakes could ever match up to building a team around a lame duck despite having the best driver

or building the car upside down by nmistake
By Hammer278
#351449
Wow no ridecule of the Merc team strategy error deliberately faulting Lewis. Guess its only McLaren who deserves it. :hehe:


No strategic mistakes could ever match up to building a team around a lame duck despite having the best driver

or building the car upside down by nmistake


....or not knowing how to screw a wheel on after 50 years operating in the sport.
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