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[Big Azza]

Azza I don't think i can read your posts anymore they are just Wunderfanism styles

I know - and I am sorry for this - but is' been a little over 40 hours since my favourite driver has just won a championship. So it's kind of like, you know, that time of the month when hormones dominate everything you do or say, so everyone is just meant ignore me - and then I'll get over it?

I'm sure I'll go back to my usual self come Korea.

And I agree with you regarding your other points. But should Vettel adapt to the new regulations well... Hmmm... I'll be repeating myself.

[bud]

Time will tell, obviously Ferrari and McLaren did eventually get on terms with the new regs, but by then Redbull and Brawn were a step ahead. Brawn ran out of money and are now steps behind with Mercedes. Redbull continued onward and will be very strong until 2014. Newey has been involved in this scenario many times before, I'm sure he is already designing ideas around the 2014 regs but every advantage Redbull enjoys now will be taken away. Starting from scratch is a race to see who does it best. if i were a driver I would not sign a deal beyond this time.

[vlad]

Don't forget that this combination almost took the title in 2009. Everything is possible, but, when you have Vettel and Newey in the same team, the result will surely be good.

[andrew]

2012 and 2013 are going to need either a balls-up by Adrian Newey or Ferrari and/or McLaren to pull something very special out the bag. 2014 is looking like the biggest opportunity for the F1 grid to potentially be turned on its head.

[acosmichippo]

I'm tellin you guys, neutrinos are the key.

[bud]

Slow car will test Vettel - Brawn

Ross Brawn says the true test of Sebastian Vettel's class will come when he is presented with a slower car than that of his rivals.

After Vettel secured back-to-back titles in Japan to become the youngest ever double world champion there has been some debate as to where he ranks among the greats of the sport. Brawn - who helped Michael Schumacher turn Ferrari in to a dominant force in the early 2000s - said that the next challenge would be to display an ability to replicate Schumacher and turn an uncompetitive team in to title challengers.

"For Sebastian, what will come now, which will be an interesting phase of his career, will be when he has not got the best car," Brawn is quoted by Autosport. "I think you have a fantastic driver in the best car, and that combination is unbeatable. It will be interesting to see Sebastian's role, Sebastian's influence, Sebastian's position when perhaps he does not have the best car, he has to make it the best car, and has to create the best car."

Brawn said that the move will come in the future when Vettel finds himself in need of a fresh challenge.

"That will be another chapter of Sebastian Vettel when it comes - and it will come. Perhaps he will make it happen himself, because he will go to another team as he wants them to be successful. And the challenge for Sebastian will be exactly the same as it was for Michael, that you have won two world championships, so what is next? What is the new challenge for me? What is the motivation?

"For Michael the motivation was to go to Ferrari and make that successful. I am sure Sebastian will look at that because everybody thinks Sebastian is doing a great job, but the Red Bull is a fantastic car. His ambition may take him a different direction, who knows?"

[andrew]

Bud how dare you come into the Vettel support thread and post that in a vain attempt to annoy us. I think you need to leave this thread.
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Back to being serious now *ahem*.

Aye, Ross Brawn is right though. Sticking any driver in a slower car is going to be a true test of not only the drivers skill, but their ability to cope with not being constantly at the front of the grid. Hopefully if and when this happens Vettel will rise to the challenge and not become a sulky Prima-Donna. I'm hoping that he remains chipper and grounded when his run of success ends, which will happen. However, as long as Adrian Newey is designing the Red Bulls, Vettel would be wise to stick around. Even when Newey produces the odd dud, the next one should be good.

[vlad]

Was Brawn sleeping while Vettel drove for Torro Rosso?

[andrew]

No, he was stuck with a really crappy Honda. I guess that sort of took all his attention.

[bud]

He means a slower car now he has a couple titles under his belt. Basically comparing him to Schumacher is all he is doing here. Schumi won two in a row for Benetton then went to Ferrari who were not a top dog of a team when he got there.

[andrew]

I'd like to see Vettel do a Schumacher but not at Ferrari. Perhaps at Mercedes.

[darwin dali]

I'd like to see Vettel do a Schumacher but not at Ferrari. Perhaps at Mercedes.

That's what Brawn is suggesting subliminally (or not so subliminally).

[vlad]

[What's Burning?]

I'd like to see Vettel do a Schumacher but not at Ferrari. Perhaps at Mercedes.

That's what Brawn is suggesting subliminally (or not so subliminally).

Vettle may even be able to get the MGP W02 up to P4 or P3 in qualifying and then settle for P6 or P7 in the race!

[vlad]

Oh, modesty, modesty...