- 02 Jul 10, 20:39#205689
I will only reply to this one... without the spirit of causing an argument... because frankly its pointless.
1) Someone like Hamilton will cause infractions and be controversial...... for the reasons you state for Hamilton.
Well, MOST if not EVERY driver on the grid is trying like hell and giving their heart and soul at every race.
Just because Hamilton has done impressive drives does not mean he's the only one giving everything. I could give examples of many other drivers giving their all in crazy circumstances, without bending rules or being controversial (Alonso with the gearbox or the day he fainted, Kimi the day he caught fire, Kobayashi at Valencia, Kubica pretty much everywhere, Barrichello near the end of last season, the Force india guys at some races.... on and on and on). He's been unlucky in a few and lucky in a few... no problem there. EXCEPT when the luck comes after breaking rules or driving unsportingly. for example Schumacher at Aussie vs Kubica. That was not clean, had he gotten a certain result (or had that been the battle for the win I would certainly not have been proud of that drive). The result from the Valencia GP (while fruitful as it may have been) is nothing to be glorified about. Regardless of his other drives or accomplishements.
2) Last yr the Mclaren was poor... he gave it his all. So? what were the results? more or less in the same vein of what the car actually was. Except with the Heikki factor one would never know, maybe the car was actually better and it simply didnt fit Hamilton. Who knows.
3) As for Hamilton outdoing Alonso in his rookie yr. First of all, he didnt out do him. Like I said before, 1pt on the same contest Alonso got the penalty for doing some pit stunt... you could say around equal no matter towards whom. It was his rookie yr. Ok... that has already been glorified over and over again... in fact... that was his best yr. CONSIDERABLY better than his WDC yr. So can you say you are necessarilly better or worse being a rookie or not? i say it depends on a lot of things... including the car, including the team... including how good the driver is in gral... etc
Maybe this one will be better? we'd have to wait and see; taking away the Valencia result and maybe a few lucky shots this yr which for some reason were scarce during the 2007 yr, maybe still his rookie yr was better. BTW 2007 was Alonso's best season also... or maybe 2006... doesnt matter really. I was excited it was so close and to say anyone of the 3 lost the battle is absurd.
I love these ferrari/alonso fan boys, come on dude stay partial.
Someone like Hamilton will cause infractions and be a contraversial talking point due to him giving it his heart and sole into every drive. Look at every race this year so far and look at how hard Hamilton has driven it, he's been pretty unlucky on a few occasions, for example Aussie GP.. Cough Mark Webber.. Cough and with a few poor tactical choices by McLaren but still he for me this year has been the most exciting driver to watch, last year it was him also because McLaren built a shitter of a car and worked really hard to get it up to standard and it was fun seeing him give it everything and bringing points to his team.
Note: I also enjoy Kubica's driving this year another driver who has impressed me ALOT.
Now as for Hamilton out doing Alonso, he clearly did it was his Rookie year and he beat a 2x wdc... how does that add up?
I will only reply to this one... without the spirit of causing an argument... because frankly its pointless.
1) Someone like Hamilton will cause infractions and be controversial...... for the reasons you state for Hamilton.
Well, MOST if not EVERY driver on the grid is trying like hell and giving their heart and soul at every race.
Just because Hamilton has done impressive drives does not mean he's the only one giving everything. I could give examples of many other drivers giving their all in crazy circumstances, without bending rules or being controversial (Alonso with the gearbox or the day he fainted, Kimi the day he caught fire, Kobayashi at Valencia, Kubica pretty much everywhere, Barrichello near the end of last season, the Force india guys at some races.... on and on and on). He's been unlucky in a few and lucky in a few... no problem there. EXCEPT when the luck comes after breaking rules or driving unsportingly. for example Schumacher at Aussie vs Kubica. That was not clean, had he gotten a certain result (or had that been the battle for the win I would certainly not have been proud of that drive). The result from the Valencia GP (while fruitful as it may have been) is nothing to be glorified about. Regardless of his other drives or accomplishements.
2) Last yr the Mclaren was poor... he gave it his all. So? what were the results? more or less in the same vein of what the car actually was. Except with the Heikki factor one would never know, maybe the car was actually better and it simply didnt fit Hamilton. Who knows.
3) As for Hamilton outdoing Alonso in his rookie yr. First of all, he didnt out do him. Like I said before, 1pt on the same contest Alonso got the penalty for doing some pit stunt... you could say around equal no matter towards whom. It was his rookie yr. Ok... that has already been glorified over and over again... in fact... that was his best yr. CONSIDERABLY better than his WDC yr. So can you say you are necessarilly better or worse being a rookie or not? i say it depends on a lot of things... including the car, including the team... including how good the driver is in gral... etc
Maybe this one will be better? we'd have to wait and see; taking away the Valencia result and maybe a few lucky shots this yr which for some reason were scarce during the 2007 yr, maybe still his rookie yr was better. BTW 2007 was Alonso's best season also... or maybe 2006... doesnt matter really. I was excited it was so close and to say anyone of the 3 lost the battle is absurd.
Came out fighting indeed.
Your team gt your partner to crash so you can take the opportunity to pit in the resultant safety car period and then win the race.
