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[CookinFlat6]

i have my opinion own it.. the allurement of formula 1 is the hystory...
team as Mercedes,Ferrari,Lotus,McLaren, are the Formula1. And the drivers?
Senna,Prost,Mansell,Lauda,Rindt,Stewart,Clarck........were DRIVERS.Nothing telemetry, elettronics, radio little.....
Now on the formula1,pilots are limited. Who decides all are the pits. strategy, consumer ...
drivers must only comply with the regole.Se do some overtaking are under investigation.
so for me the radio is to be abolished because they do not give a damn what the pilot says, but I'm interested to see the show, the REAL pilot who can drive, manage your machine.
the driver who has more class is Hamilton, but we all know that the mapping, strategy, petrol consumption only decides the box
that is all there is to say

Yes I agree that F1s attraction was always the drivers doing hard things on track. Recently we have had all this rubbish about 'it's not all about speed' or 'cerebral drivers formula' or 'understanding complex systems'
That's only so much fun for a short while and once everyone understands ERS and the best way to use it then it's almost irrelevant. The driver and his ability to win despite all the variables and randomness and unreliable technology - that's what sustains interest and F1 seems to have gone up a path this year and are now trying to go back the other way

It was only the beginning of the season we were hearing about how speed was no longer important for the driver and it was now fuel management and cerebral fusion with the technology. What happened to the cerebral drivers?
Seb - completely wasted by an old fashioned tail end happy barbecue loving number one route man
Nico - can't even save more fuel than the most trigger happy guy on the grid and has to resort to cheating
Button -

I think the fans voted with their feet about this cerebral F1 lark and now we are going back the other way - durable tyres - what happened to 6 tyre changes a race??? Falling off a cliff????

The bottom line is once the novelty of new tech has gone fans want to see guys going round the corner on the limit - like Lewis, Ricc not cruise and collect pussies waiting for the engineer to tell them when the guy in front has a problem

[Jabberwocky]

i have my opinion own it.. the allurement of formula 1 is the hystory...
team as Mercedes,Ferrari,Lotus,McLaren, are the Formula1. And the drivers?
Senna,Prost,Mansell,Lauda,Rindt,Stewart,Clarck........were DRIVERS.Nothing telemetry, elettronics, radio little.....
Now on the formula1,pilots are limited. Who decides all are the pits. strategy, consumer ...
drivers must only comply with the regole.Se do some overtaking are under investigation.
so for me the radio is to be abolished because they do not give a damn what the pilot says, but I'm interested to see the show, the REAL pilot who can drive, manage your machine.
the driver who has more class is Hamilton, but we all know that the mapping, strategy, petrol consumption only decides the box
that is all there is to say

I am sure that if telemetry and pit feedback was available in their times they would of used it as well.

I think this ban will make the show better. Drivers burning their tyres and having laps to go until they can pit or the end of the race etc

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[darwin dali]

[josric77]

i have my opinion own it.. the allurement of formula 1 is the hystory...
team as Mercedes,Ferrari,Lotus,McLaren, are the Formula1. And the drivers?
Senna,Prost,Mansell,Lauda,Rindt,Stewart,Clarck........were DRIVERS.Nothing telemetry, elettronics, radio little.....
Now on the formula1,pilots are limited. Who decides all are the pits. strategy, consumer ...
drivers must only comply with the regole.Se do some overtaking are under investigation.
so for me the radio is to be abolished because they do not give a damn what the pilot says, but I'm interested to see the show, the REAL pilot who can drive, manage your machine.
the driver who has more class is Hamilton, but we all know that the mapping, strategy, petrol consumption only decides the box
that is all there is to say

I am sure that if telemetry and pit feedback was available in their times they would of used it as well.

I think this ban will make the show better. Drivers burning their tyres and having laps to go until they can pit or the end of the race etc

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[josric77]

i have my opinion own it.. the allurement of formula 1 is the hystory...
team as Mercedes,Ferrari,Lotus,McLaren, are the Formula1. And the drivers?
Senna,Prost,Mansell,Lauda,Rindt,Stewart,Clarck........were DRIVERS.Nothing telemetry, elettronics, radio little.....
Now on the formula1,pilots are limited. Who decides all are the pits. strategy, consumer ...
drivers must only comply with the regole.Se do some overtaking are under investigation.
so for me the radio is to be abolished because they do not give a damn what the pilot says, but I'm interested to see the show, the REAL pilot who can drive, manage your machine.
the driver who has more class is Hamilton, but we all know that the mapping, strategy, petrol consumption only decides the box
that is all there is to say

Yes I agree that F1s attraction was always the drivers doing hard things on track. Recently we have had all this rubbish about 'it's not all about speed' or 'cerebral drivers formula' or 'understanding complex systems'
That's only so much fun for a short while and once everyone understands ERS and the best way to use it then it's almost irrelevant. The driver and his ability to win despite all the variables and randomness and unreliable technology - that's what sustains interest and F1 seems to have gone up a path this year and are now trying to go back the other way

It was only the beginning of the season we were hearing about how speed was no longer important for the driver and it was now fuel management and cerebral fusion with the technology. What happened to the cerebral drivers?
Seb - completely wasted by an old fashioned tail end happy barbecue loving number one route man
Nico - can't even save more fuel than the most trigger happy guy on the grid and has to resort to cheating
Button -

I think the fans voted with their feet about this cerebral F1 lark and now we are going back the other way - durable tyres - what happened to 6 tyre changes a race??? Falling off a cliff????

The bottom line is once the novelty of new tech has gone fans want to see guys going round the corner on the limit - like Lewis, Ricc not cruise and collect pussies waiting for the engineer to tell them when the guy in front has a problem

i agree

[spankyham]

Andrea Stella will be busy brushing Fernando up on his Orvietan dialect

[geetface9]

Geet? Pics please of you semi -naked Or DD did you mean the diet coke advert? I can't get YouTube here. Diet coke advert anyone? ( the one with the bit of rough doing the windows and the office girls going all goo goo- it's a bit old now but still good )

Why would anybody want to see Geet's hirsute lard arse??

Diet Coke ad please?

Y'ALLS MOMS WANT TO SEE MY HIRSUTE LARD ARSE!!

[Jabberwocky]

Is it hairy?

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[stonemonkey]

Do I look like I drink anything diet

I am just popping out for a weekend break I will youtube it for you when I get there

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Jab diet stuff is pap ( all coke is) I wouldn't credit you with drinking that muck. But the advert is something else. No rush, sorry to mess you're weekend but if you do get a minute , it's the original window cleaner one. DD needs to see it

I drink Zero mostly

[youtube]Z6Sre-wpGHE[/youtube]

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I dont get the diet thing, and zero's pretty much diet too. Diet stuff has a horrible taste (zero's maybe not quite so bad) and you get all these people trying to make themselves feel better by drinking it as they shove their mcdonalds meals down their necks, just go the whole hog ffs and enjoy the full fat coke, its not going to make any difference.
I did try coke life the other day, it's a little different and i could live with that but it's only 1/3rd less sugar which is still a lot.

Back OT, the more i think about it, the more it makes sense, the thought of in helmet displays rather than on the steering wheel. The driver's going to have to be aware of much more about the car now that he's not going to be fed information from a team of engineers poring over the telemetry, they'll not be wanting to keep half an eye on the wheel all the time or to be looking down at it when something happens to tje car in the heat of a battle.

Maybe they'll end up like iron man and have a jarvis in the car with them.

[racechick]

I can't see the vid (black hole syndrome) but I assume it's the sexy bit of rough cleaning the windows? thanks for posting it Jab.

Looking forward to the next race to see how it all pans out. It does strike me as odd that they're doing this to put driving back more in the drivers hands, but team orders( which help a driver out massively) well that's still ok.

[josric77]

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/94674 ... ntroversy-

[CookinFlat6]

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9467448/Wolff-Inevitable-Radio-Controversy-

There's gonna be a lot of controversy indeed. Considering the controversy caused by FIFTY during the team orders ban, this time round instead of just one reason for a cider message there will be about 50 and by every team

And heres another thing - pitwall notices - surely those are used to help the driver right now by telling him where other cars are etc. surely the regulation for the radio ban covers written messages such as 'driver x - 20'

Are they banning pitwall board code as well??

[Jabberwocky]

Can the teams send digital information to the car?

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[spankyham]

Can the teams send digital information to the car?

Well teams can't send a digital version of anything that is not allowed ......... BUT .......... they could make any switch a "blip" switch. Basically pick any switch/dial and toggle it - then create your own reduced morse code - voila, engineer becomes the D2A converter.

[racechick]

Trying to watch flashing lights and interpret morse code whilst negotiating tricky corners at speed and overtake traffic sounds a little hairy to me.