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[Diplomatic Immunity]

Hey and the fanboys can't apparently accept the fact that he's actually a lying cheat and people don't like him cause of it. Crazy isn't it?!

Don't get me wrong i definitely enjoy having the absolute best drivers around on the grid, but does it mean you have to like all of them...? Nope. Plus you could replace Hamilton's name in your quote there with any one of several names and it'd still apply. Madness really.

Hey and the haters can't accept the fact that he is not. Crazy isn't it?!

Now, i know you hold the whacking stick but everyone has their own opinion, ill stick to mine and i am dead sure you will stick to yours.

Roll on this weekend and Lewis extending his lead.

He is not? Did you seriously just say that? Which part do you disagree with. Liar or cheat? I guess Hamilton himself admitting (in a press conference) that he lied and cheated isn't proof enough for you. He himself admitted that he did in fact do both but you are still denying it?

It took an audio recording of his own voice for Hamilton to admit he lied and cheated...so what's it going to take for you to admit it? Do you need video of him admitting it or are you going to say Hamilton was lying when he admitted to lying and cheating? You're going to love him no matter what he does, no matter how many times it's proven....it doesn't even matter if he admits it himself after being caught red handed with recorded audio proof...as long as he gets a tear in his eye when he admits it....well gee, it wasn't his fault. The team made him do it.

But then you still love the team AS WELL so lying and cheating is ok with you no matter what...as long as McLaren isn't the victim. Got that about right, do I? Yeah...we know.

GTF out of here with that crap...HES A LIAR A CHEATER!!! HE SAID IT HIMSELF!!! It was just an example of how being a team player can go wrong. Regardless, even if it was all Hamilton's fault, how can that make him a liar. Trust me I know for a fact I have lied before...even a white lie is a lie...and that still does not make me a liar and a cheater. You never know what you would have done unless you were in his position. How can you judge his entire character and personality over something so petty? I'm one of the younger members of the forum but jeez, its sad when I see grown men judging people they don't even know. If you really want to know about what kind of person Lewis is just pay attention to what folks who truly know him think.

Kimi Raikkonen is probably one of the biggest A holes around according to many drivers and engineers...but people glorify him and nickname him "The Iceman". Fernando Alonso has done so many nasty things I can't even begin to list them...Yet and still I cannot judge them and say they are bad people. In the heat of battle s*** happens

It's funny people are too smart for their own good these days and they believe THE BIBLE is obsolete in today's world
But when someone breaks a commandment (lying) they judge them (thou shall not judge others all men sin)...its comical to me. That is why it is bad to lie because people will come up with anything to keep you down. I'm sure Lewis learned a valuable lesson there just as I did when I lied to an officer in Florida because I did not want to get arrested for having a fake ID. Having a fake ID is like lying but hey I wanted to drink that night! I learned a lesson for sure wont do that again

[f1ea]

Just think of Lewis as an Orange and Jenson an Apple

And on this day...the Orange only needed 10 laps in a recycled car to do better than what the apple did in an 1 hr and 30 minutes

Amazing

And on this day... it took the apple 1 lap to make you all look like complete idiots.

[Ineluke]

Just think of Lewis as an Orange and Jenson an Apple

And on this day...the Orange only needed 10 laps in a recycled car to do better than what the apple did in an 1 hr and 30 minutes

Amazing

And on this day... it took the apple 1 lap to make you all look like complete idiots.

Really! no one looks like an idiot because the fact remains that Lewis is a far better driver. I am not going to make excuses for Lewis's chicken up in qualifying today but don't think for one minute that Jenson is safe. If Jenson is the driver you think he is then he will have no problem holding Lewis at bay tomorrow,right?

He is in front of Lewis so let's see what he does with it.I have a funny feeling it will be you who looks like an idiot come the end of the race.

I am surprised the bug has not been squashed.

[billindenver]

How can a far better driver have 10 minutes to beat the far lessor driver and fail?

The fact is neither is a far better anything than the other. Car setup is a difficult thing to chase, sometimes one of them gets it right, other times the other does. At present Hamilton is leading in points, earlier in the season it was Button. Fact is, the fanboys keep railing about how much greater than everyone else he is....but the facts don't support it. He is a talented driver, as is the majority of the field. Full stop.

As to the 12 year old quoting the bible in here. You are joking right? Tell ya what there youngster. I'll give you a couple versus of the bible, you tell me how they are relevant today. Look up Exodus 12:7 and then explain it to your sister. Look up Exodus 35:2 and then tell me how we are going to kill EVERYONE in Formula One, SPEED tv, BBC and much of the rest of the world for working on the Sabath. There are many such inconsistencies. It's an ancient book, assembled by ancient men from the ramblings of other men..in order to control the weak minded masses. Don't bring religion in here little one....it doesn't belong.

[What's Burning?]

It's an ancient book, assembled by ancient men from the ramblings of other men..in order to control the weak minded masses. Don't bring religion in here little one....it doesn't belong.

A lot of books fall into this category.

I think the brother's Grimm did a better job with their books of mind control for little kids.

[myownalias]

The fact is neither is a far better anything than the other. Car setup is a difficult thing to chase, sometimes one of them gets it right, other times the other does. At present Hamilton is leading in points, earlier in the season it was Button. Fact is, the fanboys keep railing about how much greater than everyone else he is....but the facts don't support it. He is a talented driver, as is the majority of the field. Full stop.

I find myself agreeing with you again Bill!

On this occasion, Lewis was the one that made the mistake and Jenson got ahead of him. Jenson is in no way inferior to Lewis; neither driver is perfect; no one is claiming that Jenson is safe; I expect it to be a tight battle between the two McLaren drivers in this race and the championship. But looking at things after qualifying it seems that Red Bull have made a big step forward as have Ferrari, McLaren won't have a look-in unless the Red Bull's and Ferrari's having some sort of incident.

Let's keep religious beliefs out of this please; F1 has nothing to do with the bible, Jesus or God, no matter what you believe, it has no place on an F1 forum!

[What's Burning?]

What's clear after today's Q3 is that Red Bull have competition from more than just McLaren now. If it rains, who knows what the hell is going to happen tomorrow. In my opinion though, simply because of the tire strategy, race pace will determine tomorrow's race just as much at today's qualifying times.

The dash to turn 1 tomorrow is going to be insane with broken wings.

[What's Burning?]

Interesting quote from Webber's Q&A on f1.com.

Q: Fernando Alonso is a tough competitor…
MW: Well, all of the top five guys are very hard to race, so it will be quite an interesting race.

I wonder how carefully he chose his words in his answer.

[stonemonkey]

The fact is neither is a far better anything than the other. Car setup is a difficult thing to chase, sometimes one of them gets it right, other times the other does. At present Hamilton is leading in points, earlier in the season it was Button. Fact is, the fanboys keep railing about how much greater than everyone else he is....but the facts don't support it. He is a talented driver, as is the majority of the field. Full stop.

I find myself agreeing with you again Bill!

Surprisingly so do I.

Let's keep religious beliefs out of this please; F1 has nothing to do with the bible, Jesus or God, no matter what you believe, it has no place on an F1 forum![

But Hamilton is God.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[billindenver]

But Hamilton is God.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

That is as valid a deity as any other....but please....no crusades to convert others. England warring with Spain and Germany over whether Hammy, Alonso or Vettel is the one true god would be such a waste of money.

Back on topic though. How about that Button, eh?

[manmonkee]

Jensons usually a bit cautious at the start of the race, Hamilton just goes for it, seems to just find a way through, If jenson can finish the first lap ahead of Lewis his tyres will be warmed and he won't have an excuse.

[f1ea]

The fact is neither is a far better anything than the other. Car setup is a difficult thing to chase, sometimes one of them gets it right, other times the other does. At present Hamilton is leading in points, earlier in the season it was Button. Fact is, the fanboys keep railing about how much greater than everyone else he is....but the facts don't support it. He is a talented driver, as is the majority of the field. Full stop.

I find myself agreeing with you again Bill!

Surprisingly so do I.

Exactly.

Really! no one looks like an idiot because the fact remains that Lewis is a far better driver. I am not going to make excuses for Lewis's chicken up in qualifying today but don't think for one minute that Jenson is safe. If Jenson is the driver you think he is then he will have no problem holding Lewis at bay tomorrow,right?

He is in front of Lewis so let's see what he does with it.I have a funny feeling it will be you who looks like an idiot come the end of the race.

Here, I'll save you a day:

[Diplomatic Immunity]

How can a far better driver have 10 minutes to beat the far lessor driver and fail?

The fact is neither is a far better anything than the other. Car setup is a difficult thing to chase, sometimes one of them gets it right, other times the other does. At present Hamilton is leading in points, earlier in the season it was Button. Fact is, the fanboys keep railing about how much greater than everyone else he is....but the facts don't support it. He is a talented driver, as is the majority of the field. Full stop.

As to the 12 year old quoting the bible in here. You are joking right? Tell ya what there youngster. I'll give you a couple versus of the bible, you tell me how they are relevant today. Look up Exodus 12:7 and then explain it to your sister. Look up Exodus 35:2 and then tell me how we are going to kill EVERYONE in Formula One, SPEED tv, BBC and much of the rest of the world for working on the Sabath. There are many such inconsistencies. It's an ancient book, assembled by ancient men from the ramblings of other men..in order to control the weak minded masses. Don't bring religion in here little one....it doesn't belong.

Not true...out of everything in the bible the main point of it is to LOVE one another
Old testament is BC...We live in AD...but read Deuteronomy from the Old Testament. I promise you everything is useful for today. Every law we have and moral code is from Deuteronomy and it explains every question you ever had about how you should behave yourself.
If the Bible is irrelevant, then LYING is okay. KILLING is okay. having umpalumpa with men is okay if you're a man...but as usual people will twist the book and miss the entire message.
People forget the Bible is not 100% preaching. There are many stories, poems, and historical events that once took place that are accounted as well. But that's a whole different story and I'm not in the preaching mood

Anytime somebody uses the Bible or GOD to do something negative and prove their point...that is pure evil and is not tolerated everyone will be judged in the end. And the Bible as we know it is missing an EXTREMELY important book written by Mary Magdelline (probably spelled wrong sorry)...But MEN (of course) didn't think a woman had any right to be heard therefore its not in there.
Read the newspaper, watch a movie...killings, rapings you name it. But is bad to read it and be informed? Am I a devil worshipper because I watch horror flicks? God is love. When you cry and get emotional there aren't too many scientific measures that can explain that.

And RELIGION is man made...
and those people killing people over religion are stupid and evil...and the modern Roman Catholic church has twisted things so badly and so has other false religions...people choose not to believe.

If you treat others the way you want to be treated and listen to others, do the best you can with what you've been given and love...and follow rules...things will go more smoothly for you than people who think its Their way or the highway. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes, which is why it is important to know that their is a God who cares. Look at people who commit suicide no hope...life isn't supposed to be easy its an everyday learning experience

Now just watch I didn't cuss anyone out, I didn't say I'm right you're wrong...the Bible proves just how accurate it is because I will now get ridiculed for this post

And I am not 12 I'm 10...and the Sabbath day is Saturday not Sunday and GOD is a loving GOD and he understands the times we are living in.


http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml

[manmonkee]

What happened here???, sorry but this is a Formula 1 forum,With respect I'm sure we'll all avoid un-necessary arguments if we keep to the subject.

[Diplomatic Immunity]

What happened here???, sorry but this is a Formula 1 forum,With respect I'm sure we'll all avoid un-necessary arguments if we keep to the subject.

thank you as I was saying

Jenson did a great job in Q3 in one lap he silenced the doubters!