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[f1ea]

Webber does have some shocking luck but I think Vettel has more potential, he just needs some more experience

I want Webber to do good, as he's been somewhat of an underestimated / unlucky driver (more or less like Button)... so definitely he deserves more than his numbers tell. This yr he has used his strenghts to actually compete quite well against Vettel, who ultimately has more pace. I though Webber was going to get plowed, but so far so good. He's done pretty well

[racechick]

Webber does have some shocking luck but I think Vettel has more potential, he just needs some more experience

I want Webber to do good, as he's been somewhat of an underestimated / unlucky driver (more or less like Button)... so definitely he deserves more than his numbers tell. This yr he has used his strenghts to actually compete quite well against Vettel, who ultimately has more pace. I though Webber was going to get plowed, but so far so good. He's done pretty well

I never thought he'd get 'plowed'. Thought he might come out on top but I think he think he has the odds stacked against him. But we'll see. He's very close and often faster. A racer too.

[emma]

Fuji 2007 stands out to me but he seems to make a lot of mistakes too while doing this (although I blame Hamilton for Fuji 2007 )

Even I blame Vettel for that little incident lol.

As for the Vettel / Webber thing... How can anyone conclude that Webber's doing better this season, while Vettel is higher in the championship table? I think they're pretty much on the same level at the moment, if anything.
I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses, and it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the season plays out.

I don't like to think of favoritism in any team, even if it's for the driver I support, so if what you guys say about RBR is true, then that totally sucks .

[Jensonb]

As for the Vettel / Webber thing... How can anyone conclude that Webber's doing better this season, while Vettel is higher in the championship table? I think they're pretty much on the same level at the moment, if anything.

It's quite simple really. I track the total finishing positions for each driver (So 5 wins is 5, 3 seconds and 2 wins is 8 etc.). Webber's is lower than Vettel's, because he is more consistent.

[Arsenal 1-nil]

I think the tires are the thing in Turkey. Kers teams my be at a slight disadvantage therefore. Managing the poorer of the two choices is going to be big (I assume the softs will be the culprits). I'd really shorten the soft-stint, and put it second of three. Starting with a heavy load might be the way to go, and then pick an appropriate splash and dash to gain some track position, followed by a balls to the walls 3rd stint while everyone else still has a pit left. That might work for a guy like Webber who seems (whadda I know) to prefer a fuel-heavy load, balance, etc. Won't this be the second race for Red Bull with the DD? With true race data available, maybe they might take a small but significant jump further increasing Vettel and Webber's chances. Then again, when it comes to strategy how do you hang with Brawn? The guy's just a genius. As far as Button dominating the season and Brawn walking away with the Constructor's Title, I'd welcome it. After watching too many decades of Ferlaren runaways, I'd love to see someone else just mud-stomp them into oblivion.

[cap-dude]

I think if tyre's a problem, it really depends on, how they're a problem. The hard tyre may be slow and take too long to heat up, whilst the soft tyre may go off too quickly. We've seen both of those happen this year. But considering that Instanbul is big on tyre wear, it'll be the softs going of that'll be the problem. But Bridgestone will more than likely bring the soft and hard tyres. So I wonder will there be much of a problem at all.

Either way, we could see teams try short run at the start on the softs, or they could wait until the end of the GP when the circuit is more rubbered in, when the softs won't go off as easily. But again it depends, we seen that the softs still didn't work at Australia later on, but at Monaco the soft was the better tyre near the end. There's really too many variables to make any real predictions. So we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

[RJP Kimi]

qualify on low low fuel load, long enough for the soft tyres to last but also long enough to do another 2 stints on the hards

your almost garaunteed on pole and can just walk away from the rest of the field on your faster tyres and lower fuel load. Aslong as you can keep it together on your harder tyres you should be ok, also plus if safety car comes out because your probably always going to be the first to pit at each set of stops. I really dont know why anybody else didnt gamble on that at monaco but i really think its a good strategy.

[cap-dude]

qualify on low low fuel load, long enough for the soft tyres to last but also long enough to do another 2 stints on the hards

your almost garaunteed on pole and can just walk away from the rest of the field on your faster tyres and lower fuel load. Aslong as you can keep it together on your harder tyres you should be ok, also plus if safety car comes out because your probably always going to be the first to pit at each set of stops. I really dont know why anybody else didnt gamble on that at monaco but i really think its a good strategy.

You'd think, but then why doesn't everyone pull that strategy. It certainly didn't work for Vettel. The thing is that, that whenever you go to the second stint, you take on so much fuel and cold tyres, your instantly a slow sitting duck, and it means that the cars that were behind you all leapfrog you. Then later on in the GP, the track becomes more rubbered in, and the soft tyres don't go off so badly. It's all so complicated when you think about it.

I mean Rosberg for example. In monaco after williams seen the softs go so fast, then switched to a very heavy fuel load so they didn't have to spend so long on the soft tyres. Thats what my instinctive decision would've been as well. But it turns out Rosberg was so slow with the heavy fuel load, that he lost too much time to gain any advantage in the final stage.

[emma]

As for the Vettel / Webber thing... How can anyone conclude that Webber's doing better this season, while Vettel is higher in the championship table? I think they're pretty much on the same level at the moment, if anything.

It's quite simple really. I track the total finishing positions for each driver (So 5 wins is 5, 3 seconds and 2 wins is 8 etc.). Webber's is lower than Vettel's, because he is more consistent.

I agree that consistency is necessary, and it's an area SV has to improve on lol. But being consistently in the lower end of the points, while good, isn't going to win anyone the championship (well, it's unlikely, anyway). Look at Hamilton and Massa last year - both either didn't finish, or tended to be in the top three, or at least in the top 5. At least when Vettel can keep it on the track he tends to be in the top few
Like I said, I think when all things are considered, they're pretty even... at the moment anyway. I just don't think you could conlude one is doing better than the other at the moment. It could go either way, to be honest. They're both awesome drivers, and they seem to be in a pretty good car Turkey will be interesting!

[Jensonb]

As for the Vettel / Webber thing... How can anyone conclude that Webber's doing better this season, while Vettel is higher in the championship table? I think they're pretty much on the same level at the moment, if anything.

It's quite simple really. I track the total finishing positions for each driver (So 5 wins is 5, 3 seconds and 2 wins is 8 etc.). Webber's is lower than Vettel's, because he is more consistent.

I agree that consistency is necessary, and it's an area SV has to improve on lol. But being consistently in the lower end of the points, while good, isn't going to win anyone the championship (well, it's unlikely, anyway). Look at Hamilton and Massa last year - both either didn't finish, or tended to be in the top three, or at least in the top 5. At least when Vettel can keep it on the track he tends to be in the top few
Like I said, I think when all things are considered, they're pretty even... at the moment anyway. I just don't think you could conlude one is doing better than the other at the moment. It could go either way, to be honest. They're both awesome drivers, and they seem to be in a pretty good car Turkey will be interesting!

Do or die racers win races, consistent drivers string championships together.

[Jamie]

An interesting race. I Fell we could see the Ferrari's fighting back and we could see a 3 way battle, Macca - Ferrari - Brawn. I think Brawn could have a fight on there hands in 2 weeks!

[Jensonb]

An interesting race. I Fell we could see the Ferrari's fighting back and we could see a 3 way battle, Macca - Ferrari - Brawn. I think Brawn could have a fight on there hands in 2 weeks!

Macca? Not Red Bull?

[Jamie]

I'm not really sure about them, we just have to see what there qually performance is like to be honest with you. But i think Massa could be a major contender, but i also have a feeling that Kimi has a few things up his sleeve too

[7UpJordan]

McLaren will struggle again with their aerodynamic problems.

[Robert182]

Do or die racers win races, consistent drivers string championships together.

for once jensonb i 100% agree with you