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By Jensonb
#91704
so will the ex Honda team be using the same equipment as Force India. ala KERS and McLaren Box?

Nope, Honda Racing F1 Team Ltd. has designed and built their own KERS of which they retain ownership. I'm not sure about the 'Box. Depends if HONDA Motor Company built it or Honda Racing F1 Team Ltd.
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By Jensonb
#91737
Theevidenceisstackingup

But the silence is deafening

When will we get a bleeding announcement!? It's the worst kept secret in sport right now!
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By headless
#91747
Schumi surely wont be investing in F1.
I also think Rubens deserves a sendoff.
By Big Azza
#91752
Theevidenceisstackingup

But the silence is deafening

When will we get a bleeding announcement!? It's the worst kept secret in sport right now!


http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st140565.htm

There's gonna be an announcement from the "Brackley Team" not Honda Motorsport Co. on March the 5th. :D

I forgot about Rubens Barrichello. He does need a send off. But I'm sorry, he won't bring the new team success. If anything Jenson Button should go.

Senna has to come. The two existing drivers haven't been bringing in enough results. I think the team will be Brackley-Mercedez Racing. I want to see Takuma Sato back racing. I mean, he finished 3rd in the crappiest car. At the US Grand Prix, which is a high-speed track.

That is a bigger achievment than Jenson Button coming first in a full works car.

Sato had better come back next year.

Now, I like Mister Texeira's idea: A team for the Winners of A1. I think that sounds fantabulous.

So next year, we might have 3 new teams. The A1 Champions Team, Team USA, and A team for Hulkenberg and Sato. lol.
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By Denthúl
#91753
Theevidenceisstackingup

But the silence is deafening

When will we get a bleeding announcement!? It's the worst kept secret in sport right now!


http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st140565.htm

There's gonna be an announcement from the "Brackley Team" not Honda Motorsport Co. on March the 5th. :D

I forgot about Rubens Barrichello. He does need a send off. But I'm sorry, he won't bring the new team success. If anything Jenson Button should go.

Senna has to come. The two existing drivers haven't been bringing in enough results. I think the team will be Brackley-Mercedez Racing. I want to see Takuma Sato back racing. I mean, he finished 3rd in the crappiest car. At the US Grand Prix, which is a high-speed track.

That is a bigger achievment than Jenson Button coming first in a full works car.

Sato had better come back next year.

Now, I like Mister Texeira's idea: A team for the Winners of A1. I think that sounds fantabulous.

So next year, we might have 3 new teams. The A1 Champions Team, Team USA, and A team for Hulkenberg and Sato. lol.


I'd take Rubens over both Jenson and Takuma. He is more talented and less whiny.

Furthermore, Bruno Senna has no experience of Formula One, so I can't see how dropping Jenson and Rubens in favour of him is a wise move, especially since the team will also be unstable given what they've gone through these past few months. I could see it being a disaster for whatever Honda becomes and for Bruno Senna. He'd be far better off with another season in GP2 or one in Formula 2 with a test drive in Formula One.
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By Jensonb
#91762
Theevidenceisstackingup

But the silence is deafening

When will we get a bleeding announcement!? It's the worst kept secret in sport right now!


http://www.f1network.net/main/s169/st140565.htm

There's gonna be an announcement from the "Brackley Team" not Honda Motorsport Co. on March the 5th. :D

I forgot about Rubens Barrichello. He does need a send off. But I'm sorry, he won't bring the new team success. If anything Jenson Button should go.

Senna has to come. The two existing drivers haven't been bringing in enough results. I think the team will be Brackley-Mercedez Racing. I want to see Takuma Sato back racing. I mean, he finished 3rd in the crappiest car. At the US Grand Prix, which is a high-speed track.

That is a bigger achievment than Jenson Button coming first in a full works car.

Sato had better come back next year.

Now, I like Mister Texeira's idea: A team for the Winners of A1. I think that sounds fantabulous.

So next year, we might have 3 new teams. The A1 Champions Team, Team USA, and A team for Hulkenberg and Sato. lol.

Erm, you're forgetting that Jenson ran rings around Takuma the rest of that year in the same car - and it was not the crappiest, it was the second best.

As for Rubens, I like the guy so I'd love to see him keep the other seat, but it's probably going to come down to Bruno's money. Word on the RealHondaF1 board makes it sound like Bruno's sponsors are the team's new money bags.

People in F1 have short memories, so many people wrote Jenson off purely based on 2008 where his teammate finally beat him as a result of de-motivation (Who can blame him?). Jenson's beat ever teammate he's had from 2002 onwards apart from last year. He outclassed Rubinho in 06 and 07. You can't make judgments on the relative merits of a two drivers based off of one season, especially when their circumstances are so different (Rubinho driving to keep his career alive, Jenson's prime getting squandered by Honda's repeated failings under Nick)
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By racechick
#91766
Rubens driving to tutor Senna who will then lead the team forward. Ive said it before, thats the best option. Rubens would relish that role
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By Jensonb
#91770
Rubens driving to tutor Senna who will then lead the team forward. Ive said it before, thats the best option. Rubens would relish that role

That sounds like a great idea, yeah
By Big Azza
#91776
Barrichello is the only driver now, who was racing with his uncle. I didn't think of it that way. That would be a very emotional sight seeing these two on the same team. :blush:
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By 8-ball
#91784
The Honda Formula One team will be on the grid for the start of the 2009 season after a management buyout, The Times can reveal. Jenson Button will spearhead the team on the track after two months of intense work on a rescue package by senior managers.

Sources close to the Brackley-based outfit confirmed last night that the deal is going ahead and that the team will conduct a “shakedown” test of their new car at Silverstone next Thursday, which will be Button’s first outing in the new machine.

The management buyout is being led by Ross Brawn, the team principal and former Ferrari technical director, and will be funded by a combination of money from Honda itself for this year, funds from Bernie Ecclestone, the Formula One commercial rights-holder, and commercial sponsorship. Recent reports suggested that Sir Richard Branson’s Virgin Group could be a backer but this was being ruled out by informed sources last night.

It is not yet known under what name the team will operate or in what livery their cars will race. Under independent management, with a chassis designed by Honda and powered by a Mercedes-Benz engine under a supply deal with McLaren Mercedes, the “old” Honda team will be something of a hybrid that is likely to take some time to forge a new identity.

At Silverstone, the new car is expected to run in neutral colours. That outing will be followed by the team’s first full test in Barcelona, starting on March 9, which is the last official run-out before the first grand prix of the season in Melbourne on March 29.

While Button is confirmed in one race seat, no decision has been taken on his team-mate. This will be either Rubens Barrichello, the Brazilian, who has been with Honda for the past three seasons, or his compatriot and Formula One rookie, Bruno Senna, 25, the nephew of the great Ayrton Senna.

The buyout is expected to safeguard the jobs of “the majority” of the team’s 700 employees and was approved at a board meeting of the Honda Motor Co Ltd in Tokyo last Monday. After that meeting, Takeo Fukui, the company’s chief executive, was quoted as saying that no “serious buyer” had come forward and the company was finding the sale process “difficult”.

His comments were taken at the time as a sign that winding up the team was still a likely outcome, but it now seems that these remarks were misinterpreted.

The decision by Honda to approve and support the buyout which is regarded as highly unorthodox by senior managers in Tokyo, is a sensitive matter for a company that had made clear to its shareholders that it was withdrawing from a sport that was costing it more than £200 million a year.

While Button will be relieved to have a drive in his tenth season in Formula One, it looks likely to be another frustrating year in a car that has had a difficult birth and is unlikely to be competitive, at least in the early races.

Elsewhere yesterday, Sir Frank Williams dismissed reports that his team were in financial trouble as a result of the decision by RBS to end its sponsorship of the team in 2010. Williams said that RBS contributes only 10 per cent of the team’s budget and there was plenty of time to find a replacement sponsor from 2011 onwards.

“Don’t worry, there’s hundreds of trillions of cash in the world — something will turn up,” quipped Williams, who added that he was dismayed by a story that suggested his team, and the sport as a whole, is in difficulty. “It was presented as though it was the end of the world for Formula One, which is totally, totally untrue,” he said.


Weblink: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 812037.ece

Well it looks like Jenson has one more shot in the big time after management managed to secure some funds. Great news for all F1 fans. One thing I am concerned to see is that Reubens hasn't got his race seat confirmed yet. What is Ross thinking?! I'd take Ruebens over Jenson every day of the week! Apologies if this has been posted already.
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