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#70645
The grid order is s***. The race had better not finish like that or in McLaren's favour as it stands now. Ferrari deserve to win at least one title this year and I don't care what anyone says. For McLaren to win both is TOTALLY unacceptable. Already putting up with Lewis Hamilton who can possibily be 2008 World Champion is unacceptable as he does not deserve to even be there or have that seat. I hope the race turns sour for him and McLaren just like Singapore did for Ferrari and Massa whop clearly should of won that. If there is justice the same will happen here for Lewis Hamilton and McLaren. If Lewis Hamilton can just have all bad happen to him like what has happened to Massa then all I will say is "HVALA BOG!!!!!!!" (Thank God!). I am so sick of seeing Lewis Hamilton not back off. It sickens me. I have almost had enough. If this race doesn't turn Massa and Ferrari's way or at least give Ferrari a chance to win one title then this is the biggest load of rubbish season ever as Ferrari has had the best car and are only not winning because of all the bad luck we have had and McLaren have had none of. Let me see, Australia was crap, Malaysia was crap for Massa, Monaco was crap, Canada was as well. Silverstone dont even want to go there, Hungary almost killed me, Belgium was saved only by some contraversy, Italy was bullpoo and Singapore was a nightmare. The only race where McLaren truly out performed Ferrari was in Germany this year. Ferrari deserve to be the winners this year. If there is any rightness then Bog will assist with this happening with His devine intervention. :irked:


Clam down jeez!

I didn't get like this over Monza! the unluckyness has been pretty balanced all season we had that bad pitstop for Lewis at the start of in malaysia and then the bad start in Bahrain then Canada and France and the Tire in Hungary and finaly losing the win in Spa

Wheras Massa had the engine failure in Oz, then Again in Hungary and the Pitstop in Singapoor.

The rest were all Massa's driving problems.

Just wait for the race tommrow anything can happen! but don't go off on one and start calling other drivers and asking for divine intervention just because a qually don't go too well.

Exactly its only Q the part that counts the most is tomorrow.

Kiki you sound like a extremist, just dont blow us up now :rofl:


She is really mad and I can understand why. Ferrari had the strategy to put Kimi in front of Lewis. Kimi is fueled light and should have been on pole. Massa has never been good around here so that he is so far down isn't much of a surprise to me. Kudos to Lewis that was one awesome lap and considering that he is heavier than Kimi it is probably the best pole of his career like Ron Dennis said.

AKR take a deep breath and join me in prayer for that divine intervention! :thumbup:
#70647
He said he had no grip, so i guess he would still have had no grip.


I didnt know that. It all depends on Raikkonen tomorrow, and hopefully Massa can get Kovi and Alonso on the start. Man I cant wait for the race tomorrow!! :)


Yeah. Raikkonen could really help Massa by crashing out again - straight into Lewis :hehe:

I think that's incentive for Lewis to get as fast a start as possible. He's in a very good position, though - there are three cars between him and Massa. However, Massa could attempt to pull off another Hungary start and that would be something exciting, wouldn't it? I think Raikkonen's race pace will be very good tomorrow. We saw what he was like when he managed to qualify towards the front of the grid at Spa and Singapore. Massa has all the work to do tomorrow, Hamilton just has to keep it on track and not do anything silly.
#70653
I dont think Kimi would deliberately drive into lewis but he is in a position where he has nothing to lose, so he could just stick his foot down point for the corner and not care if he gets taken off. Lets hope lewis is well away by the time he gets to the corner.
#70654
I dont think Kimi would deliberately drive into lewis but he is in a position where he has nothing to lose, so he could just stick his foot down point for the corner and not care if he gets taken off. Lets hope lewis is well away by the time he gets to the corner.


Neither do I. But with his recent high accident rate, he could be almost as dangerous to drive around as DC :P

Kimi wants race wins. He doesn't care if Lewis wins the championship. I'm pretty sure that if the situation appears, though, Ferrari will just alter strategies to make it so that Massa comes out on top.
#70655
I dont think Kimi would deliberately drive into lewis but he is in a position where he has nothing to lose, so he could just stick his foot down point for the corner and not care if he gets taken off. Lets hope lewis is well away by the time he gets to the corner.


Neither do I. But with his recent high accident rate, he could be almost as dangerous to drive around as DC :P

Kimi wants race wins. He doesn't care if Lewis wins the championship. I'm pretty sure that if the situation appears, though, Ferrari will just alter strategies to make it so that Massa comes out on top.



Im sure Ferrari will and at this point in the championship who wouldnt! However to do it Massa has to get himself right up behind Kimi, which will depend somewat on how Alonso and Hekki fare. I dont hold my breath regading Heiki, but I do hope he proves me wrong. Alonso may be capable of getting in the mix and again he is one with nothing to lose.
#70658
Thats very true. For me its all about the drivers, so thats how I tend to see things, but I know for others the manufacturers is just as important or more important. Kimi and Alonso still have less to lose than Lewis tho if they crash.
#70661
Thats very true. For me its all about the drivers, so thats how I tend to see things, but I know for others the manufacturers is just as important or more important. Kimi and Alonso still have less to lose than Lewis tho if they crash.


Well its the same for Hekki and one one is expecting him to go and ram Massa lol.
#70663
Yes but first Heiki has to keep up!! :rofl:
#70665
Yeah. Raikkonen could really help Massa by crashing out again - straight into Lewis :hehe:


Exactly what I have been thinking for the last few hours. If only I were Domenicali!!!!! I would order Kimi to do just that on the first corner. It would look like a legitimate accident and then all Massa would have to do is get points by finishing. If he can beat Kova which wouldn't be too hard it means Ferrari would also regain the constructors title as well as the drivers. If only I were Domenicali. I know it sounds wrong, but what is best for the team right? At this point Kimi is an expendable asset. Nothing more and nothing less. I know I sound crazy but at the moment I am mad, very mad. But like someone has already said, anything can happen in the race. The above would be perfect however. Maybe it could happen by accident? Pleaaaaase. Or better still, Alonso take out Lewis Hamilton and spare Kimi and Massa and take the win, as long as Ferrari get 2nd and 3rd. Gee these outcomes are good if they happen. Only sad thing is that Lewis Hamilton will probably end up winning which is what most people in the world most likely don't want to see. Big shame if he does.
#70666
Well I'm glad I decided not to get up and watch it, the FW30's utter crappiness on long fast corners once again has damaged any hopes of a good starting place.

Only consolation is that Bourdais got in the top 10 again. I don't think the race will be worth getting up for though if it doesn't rain, but I really have to because you never know, but we all know what happens when Steve Rider and Mark Blundell go on about "Its really going to rain tomorrow Mark!" "Cor blimey guv'nor not half" and then the next day not a cloud in the sky...
#70667
AKR take a deep breath and join me in prayer for that divine intervention! :thumbup:


I will. :thumbup::yes::wink:
#70671
Well I'm glad I decided not to get up and watch it, the FW30's utter crappiness on long fast corners once again has damaged any hopes of a good starting place.

Only consolation is that Bourdais got in the top 10 again. I don't think the race will be worth getting up for though if it doesn't rain, but I really have to because you never know, but we all know what happens when Steve Rider and Mark Blundell go on about "Its really going to rain tomorrow Mark!" "Cor blimey guv'nor not half" and then the next day not a cloud in the sky...


Indeed. Fortunately, there is no Steve! Brundle did a much better job than him today :P
#70673
Yeah. Raikkonen could really help Massa by crashing out again - straight into Lewis :hehe:


Exactly what I have been thinking for the last few hours. If only I were Domenicali!!!!! I would order Kimi to do just that on the first corner. It would look like a legitimate accident and then all Massa would have to do is get points by finishing. If he can beat Kova which wouldn't be too hard it means Ferrari would also regain the constructors title as well as the drivers. If only I were Domenicali. I know it sounds wrong, but what is best for the team right? At this point Kimi is an expendable asset. Nothing more and nothing less. I know I sound crazy but at the moment I am mad, very mad. But like someone has already said, anything can happen in the race. The above would be perfect however. Maybe it could happen by accident? Pleaaaaase. Or better still, Alonso take out Lewis Hamilton and spare Kimi and Massa and take the win, as long as Ferrari get 2nd and 3rd. Gee these outcomes are good if they happen. Only sad thing is that Lewis Hamilton will probably end up winning which is what most people in the world most likely don't want to see. Big shame if he does.


Its F1 not dodgem's! and would you seriously want Massa to win the title using such dirty tactics? Is that the image you want Ferrari to show we'll win no matter what even if it means injurying our drivers and another teams driver.

I would be disgusted if Mclaren had Hekki do that.

You need to get over this weird hatred of LH and Mclaren and the attitude of Ferrari must win no matter what.

Did you not see Massa shake Lewis's hand when he got the pole that's the attitude of a true sportsman i may support Mclaren but i think Massa has a great attitude and is very sportsman like you should learn from that AKR

Don't get me wrong i still want LH to win and Hekki to come 2nd but i don't want Massa to crash or anything.
#70675
Yeah. Raikkonen could really help Massa by crashing out again - straight into Lewis :hehe:


Exactly what I have been thinking for the last few hours. If only I were Domenicali!!!!! I would order Kimi to do just that on the first corner. It would look like a legitimate accident and then all Massa would have to do is get points by finishing. If he can beat Kova which wouldn't be too hard it means Ferrari would also regain the constructors title as well as the drivers. If only I were Domenicali. I know it sounds wrong, but what is best for the team right? At this point Kimi is an expendable asset. Nothing more and nothing less. I know I sound crazy but at the moment I am mad, very mad. But like someone has already said, anything can happen in the race. The above would be perfect however. Maybe it could happen by accident? Pleaaaaase. Or better still, Alonso take out Lewis Hamilton and spare Kimi and Massa and take the win, as long as Ferrari get 2nd and 3rd. Gee these outcomes are good if they happen. Only sad thing is that Lewis Hamilton will probably end up winning which is what most people in the world most likely don't want to see. Big shame if he does.


:nono::nono: Sorry AKR but big smlie when he does :D:yes-90::yes-0:
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