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[racechick]

I'm looking forward to the season immensely! And that's aside from Lewis winning lots of races.

How will the Lewis/Nico battle pan out this year?
Will the Renault andFerrari engine makers have pulled their socks up?
How will the Honda fit into the scheme of things?
How will Alonso fair at McLaren second time round, particularly if the car is off pace.
Is Vestappen as good as they say?
Will Kvyat trouble Ricciardo?
Will Vettel fade further into obscurity?
Will Kimi wake up?
How much faster will these cars go this year?
And that's aside from all the racing!!

Boring?? Really?

[overboost]

Well, unless someone makes a major breakthrough, we'll have a very boring season on our hands.

This is how it seems to be shaping up unfortunately. Mercedes is holding on to its advantage as the rules allow.

Sad but true, before testing is even over we know the wdc and wcc!

[racechick]

Well, unless someone makes a major breakthrough, we'll have a very boring season on our hands.

This is how it seems to be shaping up unfortunately. Mercedes is holding on to its advantage as the rules allow.

Sad but true, before testing is even over we know the wdc and wcc!

No the rules were changed, remember? Ferrari found a loophole and extended the time to change the engines before freezing. But That just played into mercedes hands because the reason Mercedes have an advantage is they did a better job with the engine and are seemingly continuing to do a better job.

[What's Burning?]

does it really matter? Lewis is going to wind up with a third WDC and Mercedes with their second WCC in a row, if you can't at least make a good car you don't deserve to win, really.

it at least brings some validity back to the sport if you ask me. a team demonstrably shown to cheat dominates for four years and a driver that couldn't drive a car without a massive aero advantage, but only now is it worthwhile to complain.

hard to please everyone I guess.

[overboost]

Well, unless someone makes a major breakthrough, we'll have a very boring season on our hands.

This is how it seems to be shaping up unfortunately. Mercedes is holding on to its advantage as the rules allow.

Sad but true, before testing is even over we know the wdc and wcc!

No the rules were changed, remember? Ferrari found a loophole and extended the time to change the engines before freezing. But That just played into mercedes hands because the reason Mercedes have an advantage is they did a better job with the engine and are seemingly continuing to do a better job.

The option to hold on to the 'tokens'. I understand this is being considered by Renault who are looking at putting those tokens together with next seasons so they might take a run at 2016. If so then it is clear that they have already thrown in the towel for 2015.

Ferrari are said to have used most if not all of their tokens so no difference for them and their customers. The main factors that remain and restrict competition is that more than half of the engine package is frozen and that the number of tokens reduces each season. Merc has it made.

[racechick]

Well, unless someone makes a major breakthrough, we'll have a very boring season on our hands.

This is how it seems to be shaping up unfortunately. Mercedes is holding on to its advantage as the rules allow.

Sad but true, before testing is even over we know the wdc and wcc!

No the rules were changed, remember? Ferrari found a loophole and extended the time to change the engines before freezing. But That just played into mercedes hands because the reason Mercedes have an advantage is they did a better job with the engine and are seemingly continuing to do a better job.

The option to hold on to the 'tokens'. I understand this is being considered by Renault who are looking at putting those tokens together with next seasons so they might take a run at 2016. If so then it is clear that they have already thrown in the towel for 2015.

Ferrari are said to have used most if not all of their tokens so no difference for them and their customers. The main factors that remain and restrict competition is that more than half of the engine package is frozen and that the number of tokens reduces each season. Merc has it made.

Merc have Played a blinder havent they carving a name for themselves as undisputed best engine makers.

At least Ferrari sound as though they've woken up. They forgot to use the tokens last year. But I guess you could put that down to 'frequently changing management issues'

[CookinFlat6]

Ferrari are said to have used most if not all of their tokens so no difference for them and their customers. The main factors that remain and restrict competition is that more than half of the engine package is frozen and that the number of tokens reduces each season. Merc has it made.

Hahaha, the tokens were agreed to by all the teams as a way of avoiding costs war. Once th losers have caught up then the engines will be frozen completely anyway, thats why they are reducing

Only losers want to be in a race where there are no parameters. Winners (like Merc and Honda and Renault) all say they are in F1 ONLY because of the technical challenge in these regs

e.g "Design an engine that can complete a race using only 100 units of fuel each hour" thats a challenge that appeals to winners, because win or lose in F1, it spawns massive technology gain that they can apply to their road cars - EXCEPT one engine maker, this engine maker thinks its better to have NO limits of fuel consumption, and NO limits on how much they can rebuild it each time they realise they fkd up royally.

The winners, who make real cars and not handbags - they embraced this challenge - "here are 100 units of change, design an engine and then correct/tweak it according to these parameters" And the big boys said "wow great challenge", and 1 backwards arsed "national pride" outfit said "wow, err, whats ERS mean again?"

It would be like someone making a challenge light hearted game - TRIVIAL Facts - with rules saying "provide a piece of TRIVIA FACT that others find it a challenge to workout without looking it up"

Some say "wow great challenge" and spend time thinking of something TRIVIAL that is a challenge to work out from the clue, and others turn to wiki to find the most convoluted and meaningless and inane disputable "does God exist" type of question that is NOT TRIVIAL and get their calculators out and sit in the library - and then say to their sheep facepaint supporters "yeah baby we be competing now!!!"

It would be like "they who must not be ridiculed" turning up to attempt this TRIVIA thing and saying " its not fair mrX or mrY are bound to win because they have a brain whereas Im just pretending" - "this game is boring because Messrs X and Y always win" - "the rules are messed up as they dont allow me to use the NASA computer instead of my calculator and Wiki setup"

And best of all?? """""""DONT RIDICULE ME AS I HAVE A RIGHT TO CONTINUE SPEWING THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!"""""""

[Hammer278]

Well TOUGH SH!T to the whiners and whingers, don't watch F1.

The rest of us will continue watching the best team + driver combo win it all again this year, and the next, and probably the year after.

[RyRy]

Well TOUGH SH!T to the whiners and whingers, don't watch F1.

The rest of us will continue watching the best team + driver combo win it all again this year, and the next, and probably the year after.

From an unbiased point I would honestly say Mercedes are the best team all round especially in engines, they've had the best engine for many many years

[What's Burning?]

Well TOUGH SH!T to the whiners and whingers, don't watch F1.

The rest of us will continue watching the best team + driver combo win it all again this year, and the next, and probably the year after.

From an unbiased point I would honestly say Mercedes are the best team all round especially in engines, they've had the best engine for many many years

Don't be such a fan boy, their pit stops are dammed lousy.

[racechick]

Buxton does a good write up here on the Barceloa testing. Confirming Mercedes awesomeness, highlights the exciting new talent that is Vestappen, and generally shows how much all the cars have progressed since this time last year.
Mclaren seem in a mess and with the possible loss of Alonso for the next test could suffer further ( I don't share Willthejourno's confidence in Button's feedback skills) but other than that, a good informative write up I thought.

https://willthef1journo.wordpress.com/a ... ef1journo/

[CookinFlat6]

Well at last we know the history of Jensons feedback with Honda. Interestingly the difference betwen failure as Honda and success as Brawn was the feedback that the Honda engine be swapped for the Merc engine.

Could Jenson pull off the same feat again? Would McLaren really swap the Honda for the Merc? Will Jenson complain of no grip or no balance first? Lets see how right Buxton is with his "high hopes"" for the McLaren number 1.5 driver

[overboost]

Well, unless someone makes a major breakthrough, we'll have a very boring season on our hands.

This is how it seems to be shaping up unfortunately. Mercedes is holding on to its advantage as the rules allow.

Sad but true, before testing is even over we know the wdc and wcc!

No the rules were changed, remember? Ferrari found a loophole and extended the time to change the engines before freezing. But That just played into mercedes hands because the reason Mercedes have an advantage is they did a better job with the engine and are seemingly continuing to do a better job.

The option to hold on to the 'tokens'. I understand this is being considered by Renault who are looking at putting those tokens together with next seasons so they might take a run at 2016. If so then it is clear that they have already thrown in the towel for 2015.

Ferrari are said to have used most if not all of their tokens so no difference for them and their customers. The main factors that remain and restrict competition is that more than half of the engine package is frozen and that the number of tokens reduces each season. Merc has it made.

Merc have Played a blinder havent they carving a name for themselves as undisputed best engine makers.

At least Ferrari sound as though they've woken up. They forgot to use the tokens last year. But I guess you could put that down to 'frequently changing management issues'

This is the first year for tokens afaik, of which Ferrari is rumoured to maybe hang on to a few for later on, we shall see. Last season the engines were all new!

Yes Merc currently is playing the rule game well but it would be hard to say that they are 'undisputed best engine makers' as the rules prevent the others from working on more than half of their engines so their abilities can't fully be shown. Their old obsolete parts are frozen and not to be modified.

If any F1 engine manufacturer is to be singled out as perhaps 'best' it would be Ferrari with their engines in 16 wcc cars. Mercedes only have done it 3 times, 4 if 2015 is included! They have a long way to go. Renault 12, Ford 10, Honda has 6.

[RyRy]

Winning WCC does not mean you're the best at making engines, Mercedes have has the best engine for at least the last ten years and many times in the past they've had the best engine.

Their engines have been the fastest and most fuel efficient for ages, reliability off the engine itself has been good but teams can directly impact the reliability a lot.

[racechick]

Well, unless someone makes a major breakthrough, we'll have a very boring season on our hands.

This is how it seems to be shaping up unfortunately. Mercedes is holding on to its advantage as the rules allow.

Sad but true, before testing is even over we know the wdc and wcc!

No the rules were changed, remember? Ferrari found a loophole and extended the time to change the engines before freezing. But That just played into mercedes hands because the reason Mercedes have an advantage is they did a better job with the engine and are seemingly continuing to do a better job.

The option to hold on to the 'tokens'. I understand this is being considered by Renault who are looking at putting those tokens together with next seasons so they might take a run at 2016. If so then it is clear that they have already thrown in the towel for 2015.

Ferrari are said to have used most if not all of their tokens so no difference for them and their customers. The main factors that remain and restrict competition is that more than half of the engine package is frozen and that the number of tokens reduces each season. Merc has it made.

Merc have Played a blinder havent they carving a name for themselves as undisputed best engine makers.

At least Ferrari sound as though they've woken up. They forgot to use the tokens last year. But I guess you could put that down to 'frequently changing management issues'

This is the first year for tokens afaik, of which Ferrari is rumoured to maybe hang on to a few for later on, we shall see. Last season the engines were all new!

Yes Merc currently is playing the rule game well but it would be hard to say that they are 'undisputed best engine makers' as the rules prevent the others from working on more than half of their engines so their abilities can't fully be shown. Their old obsolete parts are frozen and not to be modified.

If any F1 engine manufacturer is to be singled out as perhaps 'best' it would be Ferrari with their engines in 16 wcc cars. Mercedes only have done it 3 times, 4 if 2015 is included! They have a long way to go. Renault 12, Ford 10, Honda has 6.

Ferrari? They've been the least able to adapt to new technology.
On the point of tokens, ok, they begin this year, but last year Ferrar had the option to change most of their engine when they realised they'd got it wrong, but they didn't, bit of an oversight wouldn't you say? Or did they lack the skills as an engine maker? Or as I said before, were they distracted by in house management scraps, power battles and politics?