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By Jabberwocky
#366250
Has Lotus been wafting a joke under our noses for a few years and no one has ever noticed.

Has anyone noticed what Chitty Chitty Bang Bangs registration plate is?

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By What's Burning?
#368181
Is Lotus sensing a power void they're looking to fill? I can't help but read this as head games with Ferrari.
ESPNF1 Lotus team principal Eric Boullier says the target for the team is now to finish second in the constructors' championship.

At the start of the season Lotus was targeting third place having finished fourth behind Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren in 2012. However, with the team currently sitting in fourth place but only 25 points off second-placed Mercedes, Boullier says the target is to finish as the runner-up in the constructors' this year.

"The championship is so close between ourselves, Ferrari and Mercedes at the moment that we really need to be aiming a little higher to make sure our goals are reached," Boullier said. "I think therefore that to target P2 is a better ambition, and we will be pushing harder than ever to sustain that challenge.

"We have an ambitious group of people at Enstone and a top three placing at the end of the year is much possible, which would be a fantastic achievement for everybody involved. We head into the next nine races on a real high."

Lotus has scored the most points out of any team over the last two races, while Kimi Raikkonen currently sits in second place in the drivers' championship.
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By Jabberwocky
#368192
Bet it has nothing to do with Ferrari signing allison

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By What's Burning?
#369224
I get it... it all makes sense, the "shareholders" that loaned Lotus 90 million, must not want to get that money back so it's not a real loan. Let's not even ask why the team had to borrow money from the shareholders in the first place but I guess this is more like a London Porpoise than a Whale.
ESPNF1 The owners of the Lotus F1 team, Genii Capital, have rubbished reports the team is in financial trouble and struggling to pay members of staff.

Reports emerged during the summer break that Lotus has debts of €120 million and rumours started to circulate about the financial security of the team. But Genii boss Gerard Lopez said the team's accounts have simply been misunderstood.

"On the €120 million debt, anybody half-smart can find out that number by going to Companies House records and will see that out of that, over 90 million is not 'real' debt but shareholder loans made to the company," he told Autosport.

"The salaries have always been paid on time and there has never been even a hint of a potential strike by our people at the factory. We usually don't comment on these things, but in this case it's unfair on the people working in the company to be saying things like that."

Lopez said Genii's investment in Lotus had made it a much stronger team than the Renault outfit Genii bought in to in 2009.

"When we took over this team, it was eighth in the championship," Lopez added. "It had a 50% windtunnel, now it's 60%. The team didn't have a driver-in-the-loop simulator, it does now. It didn't have a gearbox dyno, now it has.

"So it has a bunch of things that it didn't have even as a works team. As they say in other sports, you do your talking on the field and I guess we do our talking on the track."
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By Jabberwocky
#369226
I think he means as in they do not owe the money right this second.... as it is a loan I would imagine that it is paid back over time.

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By What's Burning?
#369229
I think he means as in they do not owe the money right this second.... as it is a loan I would imagine that it is paid back over time.

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Yes, loans are debt.
By What's Burning?
#370272
TOPGEAR No matter what he does on the track this weekend in Belgium, Kimi Räikkönen will be the # in everyone’s Tweets. What seemed like an obvious switch to Red Bull next year seems like anything but. Instead the talk is of a move to Ferrari alongside or (depending on how much drama you like served with your gossip) as a replacement for Fernando Alonso. And that’s via the Eddie Jordan News Agency, the source that gave you Button to McLaren, Schumacher to comeback and Hamilton to Mercedes.

The more lurid take on the story is that Luca de Montezemolo and Alonso didn’t make up before heading for the beach and their feud sizzled in the August heat. Ferrari, don’t forget, doesn’t hesitate to show the door to the best drivers in the world when they feel the time is right; ask Niki Lauda, Alain Prost or, um, Kimi Räikkönen. Oh yes, let it not be forgotten that the sabbatical Kimi returned from was orchestrated by Ferrari, who were fed up of seeing their champ (their last champ) beaten by Felipe Massa. Of course, the less lurid version of the story has Kimi replacing Massa. Go figure. But do believe it; Eddie rarely gets these things wrong.

Has Räikkönen earned this redemption? When we dared to suggest earlier this year that we weren’t convinced come-back Kimi was at the height of his powers the comments box lit up, and indeed, this year, Räikkönen has been impressive — a win and five second places is as good as anyone. Anyone except Vettel, that is, whom Kimi trails by a win-and-half with nine races to go. And yet (and reaching for the body armour) you would not put good money on Räikkönen challenging for the title when you could instead put that money on Lewis Hamilton.

The problem seems to be with the Lotus car itself, and knowing just how good the E21 chassis is or isn’t. Is it ordinary, with only the talent of Räikkönen dragging it from so-so grid positions to the podium? You could use Grosjean’s form to back up that theory; we know that RoGros can be enormously fast and that raw speed is not his problem. Or is the car extraordinary, with only residual rustiness on the part of Räikkönen and the inexperience of Romain holding it back?

Either way, the easy-riding E21 is undoubtedly inconsistent. Kimi’s season-opening win suggested the engineers at Enstone had a paid appropriate attention to Pirelli’s controversial 2013 collection. But the team was so-so in the wet in Malaysia, and again in Canada. The last two of those five second places have come in the last two races, and mark something of a return to form for the team. Lotus deserves to have its number one driver second to Vettel in the drivers’ cup as they have shown direction, an absence off in so many teams we have lamented these last two weeks. Indeed if Grosjean could be depended on to turn pace to points they would not be trailing in fourth in the constructors’ trophy.

Unfortunately there is another team with an even keener trajectory and that’s Mercedes to whom we will come, finally, tomorrow. It is Mercedes who are nipping at Red Bull in the constructors and, we feel, Hamilton who will soon be taking bites out of Vettel’s lead in the drivers.

Hard to know how much that bothers Räikkönen. In the circumstances, and with the probability of a Ferrari beneath him, maybe not at all. And that can’t be good news for Lotus. McLaren lost its star driver and engineer to Mercedes last year, Lotus might be just about to do the same to Ferrari. They need to make hay in these last nine races.

Half term grades

Lotus B Plus

Räikkönen B Plus

Grojean C Plus
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By Frontrunner
#373137
Now that Red Bull and now Ferrari have locked in their 2014 drivers line up, the spotlight goes on Lotus now to replace Kimi. Losing Kimi is a big loss for Lotus considering that inconsistent Grosjean driving the other car. So they will need someone very capable to lead that team next year and get some good results.
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By Jabberwocky
#373139
The hulk

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By What's Burning?
#373151
They're cloning Grossjean.
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By Frontrunner
#373161
They're cloning Grossjean.

thats double trouble then

Massa or the Hulk.

Perhaps Lotus should take both of them, but I think Lotus will retain Grosjean next year

Personally my number one choice would be the Hulk
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By Jabberwocky
#373239
They will keep grosjean as continuity

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By LRW
#373244
They will keep grosjean as continuity

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But if they keep him, they'll need a more experienced lead driver in the other seat.
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