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[What's Burning?]

If lapped cars always allowed the lead car past without a battle, Le Mans would be a very boring race to watch.

But given the new SC rule of having the cars fall into position and lapped cars allowed to overtake, a car can get back on the lead lap, especially a front running team that may have fallen behind because of a pit stop to change a wing or something like that. So why shouldn't they fight for position, the incentive is there and if the pace is equal? You're arguing about HRT because they are relatively slow when compared to the front runners, when they leave, will you then make the same argument again about Marussia, then Caterham? There is always going to be a slow car on track blocking the leaders at the wrong time, it's the same for everyone. So Vettel got involved in this one, it happens.

[LewEngBridewell]

Aye, it's nothing new...people seem to have forgotten how woeful Super Aguri were when they first entered back in '06. They were using a four year old Arrows chassis for goodness sake! Then what about Spyker? And Minardi? Even recent years reveal a host of little teams that were way off the pace, and sometimes failed to qualify (Alex Yoong, for example!)

[andrew]

Aye, it's nothing new...people seem to have forgotten how woeful Super Aguri were when they first entered back in '06. They were using a four year old Arrows chassis for goodness sake! Then what about Spyker? And Minardi? Even recent years reveal a host of little teams that were way off the pace, and sometimes failed to qualify (Alex Yoong, for example!)

You can't compare Minardi to HRT or Marussia! Minardi ocasionally put in a good show and achieved a result. Spyker (previously Midland previously Jordan) only lasted 1 season before becoming Force India. At least Super Aguri had 2 points finishes!

[yamashek]

If lapped cars always allowed the lead car past without a battle, Le Mans would be a very boring race to watch.

You are in an F1 forum, I think the Le Mans section is somewhere else.

I am speaking for all the drivers, the drivers on the lead lap shouldn't be delayed in any form by the lapped drivers.

[Hammer278]

They shouldn't be delayed but it's part of the game. Did you see where Vettel caught NK? At the double apex chicane of Sepang, there's ONLY 1 line through there, and it was just unfortunate timing. Compound to that the fact that Vettel is trying to flex his Redbull muscles by giving NK practically no room, he got what he deserved. I'm sure he would've learned from this and will be more careful next time around.

[What's Burning?]

Just wait until he's tussling with Massa.

[Blackavar]

Hahaha. Super Aguri! Man I loved them when they entered. Four year old Arrows chassis like, does it get any better.

[LRW]

Good old Narain is biting back.....

link-eroosie

For a World Champion to say things like that is really shameful. It is really unprofessional. For a driver who has achieved so much to take out his frustrations on me just because he is having a difficult year is really sad. One does not expect a professional sportsman to be such a cry baby.

[geetface9]

Word. vettel has been the idiot on the track several times, so I guess maybe he's referring to himself in this instance and not karthikeyan???

[LewEngBridewell]

Good old Narain is biting back.....

link-eroosie

For a World Champion to say things like that is really shameful. It is really unprofessional. For a driver who has achieved so much to take out his frustrations on me just because he is having a difficult year is really sad. One does not expect a professional sportsman to be such a cry baby.

Waheeey! Well done Narain! Go on son!!

[Hammer278]

Good old Narain is biting back.....

link-eroosie

For a World Champion to say things like that is really shameful. It is really unprofessional. For a driver who has achieved so much to take out his frustrations on me just because he is having a difficult year is really sad. One does not expect a professional sportsman to be such a cry baby.

I can't wait to see the next time Vettel and Karthikeyan meet on track...hopefully for more fireworks and cut tyres!

[yamashek]

Good old Narain is biting back.....

link-eroosie

For a World Champion to say things like that is really shameful. It is really unprofessional. For a driver who has achieved so much to take out his frustrations on me just because he is having a difficult year is really sad. One does not expect a professional sportsman to be such a cry baby.

I can't wait to see the next time Vettel and Karthikeyan meet on track...hopefully for more fireworks and cut tyres!

or maybe Dietrich (Redbull boss) will buy out the team, and just disassemble it...(if those 12pts cost them the championships- constructors/drivers)

anyway, to the bright people saying NK was not given enough room...please view the replay again...

issue is: they both converge to the racing line, but you see, there is another car (webber) behind, what the hell was NK trying to do by ducking back in to the back of Vettel only to move away for Webber again on the back straight?

if NK said "the champion" is being unprofessional, i guess NK is un-amateur...it is harsh, but sorry, you are being lapped, and thats the reality..you cut his bloody tyre, do you expect him to say "thank you very much, i was wrong because i was in your way and let you cut my tyres while you are given the blue flag to get out of MY way?" of course the HRTs are going to get pushed off track, because THEY ARE ON THE RACING LINE WHEN GETTING BLUE FLAGGED. SV's words are strong and harsh, but that is to be expected- no character loss there.

Blue flag, please move out of the way, CLEAR the way for the leaders. Dont duck back behind the lead car and cut their tyres. you are not going to get any support from others...with a team like HRT, they should aim to please everyone in the paddock and hope (almost beg, with this kind of performance after 3 years) sponsors will sponsor their outfit. PS: some say that HRT is ranked higher than marussia by finishing races, but that does not mean HRT has the pace (my opinion). you can drive a VW beetle and still finish the race and rank higher than marussia. thing is, HRT cars got no potential. if marussia has the reliability to finish races, then i bet (except a mixed grid/race) HRTs will not finish infront of marussia come the end of the year.

[Hammer278]

He can't buy it as it is a private limited establishment.

And anyway, I don't think HRT depend on your judgement to say if they can make it or not. It's not easy to run an F1 team FYI, and they are trying their very best out there.

Just because some spoiled brat front runner passes and squeezes a slower car till there's contact doesn't mean the backmarker team has to fold. You say HRT is not getting any support in this instance, which is bullsh*t. Di Resta, Hulkenburg are a couple of drivers showing support, and so are the F1 pundits.

Go to any site and read the comments, you'll see where the support lies.

[yamashek]

He can't buy it as it is a private limited establishment.

And anyway, I don't think HRT depend on your judgement to say if they can make it or not. It's not easy to run an F1 team FYI, and they are trying their very best out there.

Just because some spoiled brat front runner passes and squeezes a slower car till there's contact doesn't mean the backmarker team has to fold. You say HRT is not getting any support in this instance, which is bullsh*t. Di Resta, Hulkenburg are a couple of drivers showing support, and so are the F1 pundits.

Go to any site and read the comments, you'll see where the support lies.

How about buying enough shares of the team anonymously to control it? Anyway, it was just a poke-fun comment...relax

Those drivers are from a team racing under Indian license, you think they can just sit there not say anything? Of course they have to say what the crowd wants to hear especially their marketing team is based in India. Same goes for the commentators, they have a large audience and they have to give their opinion based on the audience's acceptance. So far only Di Resta and the Hulk - Force India came out.

Most of the comments online are from people that are ready to pounce if there is anything they can blame on Vettel, just because they think he is a "spoiled brat". That same "spoiled brat" won the 2008 Italian GP with a less superior car compared to mclarens/ferraris. Who came to the scene as a rookie and get the top car in the paddock in 2007? hmmmm spoiled brat...let's agree to not go there in this thread.

Let's just step back, and imagine it was not Vettel, let's say Kimi? MSC? Fernando?or...Lewis Hamilton (had pole, and ended up 4th, and at the end got taken out by a lapped car)? There is an element of bias for Vettel before they even make a comment, they just need something to spark the anti-Vettel-ness. I predict something really different will happen to the comments if it was Lewis not Vettel in this case.

Of course, I am not to judge if HRT can make it or not, when did I say that? ....but i sure can make my opinion, and so can you. Thank you for your feedback though.

It is great that they are getting verbal support (HRT), but where is the support in terms of sponsorship to make them go forward? Do you really think this incident will have people sympathize with HRT and give them loads of money for them to develop their cars? Well, I am not so sure.

[LewEngBridewell]

HRT for the WCC, 2013!!!

Karthikeyen will provide us with a masterclass on how to lap the field. Over and over again.