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By LewEngBridewell
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At least post the one from the Wembley gig! Best ever live version! Just watched it. :thumbup:

Still awesome though.


I'll take note for next time :wink:
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By myownalias
#342288
I don't understand all the negativeness against Button; all he has done is play the political game during his time at McLaren; which is no different than Schumacher or Alonso. Unfortunately that's what you have to do to be successful in F1 in the last 20 years; Schumacher played the political game at Ferrari and Alonso has done the same at Ferrari and Renault.
By Hammer278
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I've never been a fan of him and now actively dislike him. I can also claim to have never liked ALonso (more the opposite) or Schumacher (during his Ferrari days). Just find it unnecessary to play politics if you are damn good as Alonso and Schumacher both are. Which is why I am neutral about Vettel despite all his success, he just drives fast and gives his team no choice but to support him in the WDC race.

I guess people like/appreciate strong Kings instead of weak ones....ALonso and Schumacher (was) are. Button is just an average driver who looks like a weasel...its easier to dislike someone like that.
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By Jabberwocky
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It is because he played the game and beat someone at it who some people thinks as unbeatable. So he must of cheated otherwise the blinkers might slip and the whole game might be seen
By Hammer278
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It is because he played the game and beat someone at it who some people thinks as unbeatable. So he must of cheated otherwise the blinkers might slip and the whole game might be seen


Who did he beat exactly? Just curious. :eek:
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By myownalias
#342296
I guess people like/appreciate strong Kings instead of weak ones....ALonso and Schumacher (was) are. Button is just an average driver who looks like a weasel...its easier to dislike someone like that.

I can agree that Button is not in the same league as Hamilton, Vettel or Alonso; because Button can't manhandle a poor car into the top spots like the other three; but Button given the optimum situation can be unbeatable; but like the Pirelli tyres; his operating window is very small. As I said many times, I am a fan, not delusional, I'm interested to see how he compares to Perez in 2013!
By What's Burning?
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I don't understand all the negativeness against Button; all he has done is play the political game during his time at McLaren; which is no different than Schumacher or Alonso. Unfortunately that's what you have to do to be successful in F1 in the last 20 years; Schumacher played the political game at Ferrari and Alonso has done the same at Ferrari and Renault.

Or you can rely on talent. I understand playing the political game but he was still outdriven. Maybe it will work against Perez. I don't dislike Button, hell how can anyone say you dislike a guy you don't know. What I dislike it the detrimental effect it had on what was the best driver pairing with a top team and how placating things bit McLaren in the bottom. Oh well, they'll be around long after Lewis (and button) has retired from the sport.
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By Jabberwocky
#342300
So now the only reason Lewis left Mclaren is because of Button.
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By racechick
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I agree with some of what Hammer said and some of what What's Burning said. No WB, you can't really dislike someone you don't know but you can dislike their way off doing things, the way their acts impact negatively and selfishly on those around them, and for us mere fans that won't get any closer to the driver, that interprets as a dislike. I disliked Schumacher and Alonso for the Same reasons, though I did respect their driving. I thought Schumacher was fantastic when he first burst on the F1 scene, but rapidly went off him because of his modus operandi, same with Alonso. Was never a big fan of Button, just wasn't bothered, but now don't like. I hope he doesn't play stupid games with Perez. I can't have full respect and admiration for drivers who have to play the game off the track
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By racechick
#342306
No Jab, I doubt Button figured in Lewis' decision. Lewis is completely confident in his own driving skills.
By What's Burning?
#342308
So now the only reason Lewis left Mclaren is because of Button.

I think Lewis left Mclaren because Lewis wanted to leave McLaren. There's been a lot of great drivers over the years that have done the same, so nothing that Lewis did is that out of the ordinary.

I do think however that if he'd been in a WDC battle in Brazil along with Vettel and Alonso, he would have stayed.
By Hammer278
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So now the only reason Lewis left Mclaren is because of Button.

I think Lewis left Mclaren because Lewis wanted to leave McLaren. There's been a lot of great drivers over the years that have done the same, so nothing that Lewis did is that out of the ordinary.

I do think however that if he'd been in a WDC battle in Brazil along with Vettel and Alonso, he would have stayed.


According to Whitmarsh, Lewis signed for Merc the day after the Singapore GP. His comment about that was "It's never a good thing to make your decision after a bad race"....I mean wtf Whitmarsh, Hamilton had his PICK of bad races to choose from get a freaking clue!! :thumbdown:
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