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[manmonkee]

I love Jenson but he does have problems, He's not good at getting the tyre's hot for Quali, Thats his big one. He had that problem on Grooved tyres but everybody did to an extend so it wasn't so obvious. In the race he's fine apart from his worst racing fault, Sometimes Jenson just seems to settle down, He'll get into a good position for points, there's a guy in front of him he could have a go at but he seems to do a mental calculation, Points versus danger of going off. Lewis doesn't settle, the guy in front of him is the guy who's got his rightful position.

[The Ram]

Jenson just drives around at 85% and the traffic just seems to part itself before him like the Red sea. He signed a deal with the devil or something?
I mean good going on the start but everything just played into his hands after he got the 8th position.

Looking back, I said Jenson can't win the lottery every race weekend; but I was wrong. I just hope Hockenheim will break his lucky streak.
Otherwise, Jenson is playing number 2 quite well right now, but he is too close, not on raw pace but points-wise, for comfort. Hamilton can only go so fast and collect so many points but if the competing cars are not doing their jobs you will always find Jenson crawling in 30 seconds behind Hamilton's tail with nobody in between. The only cure for this is for the Mclaren to be just quick enough to beat the RedBull, this will enable Hamilton to win and Button to finish maybe 4th at best.

Sounds crazy doesn't it? Well that's what I feel. I don't hate Jenson Button but I hate when ordinary prevails. It's funny because the type of racing this season facilitates an average slow pace, just do enough to get in front and no more. True speed (for similar cars different drivers) is not rewarded at all, what is rewarded is knowing when your tyres are going to come alive/finish and hope that the other guys tyres don't come alive and/or dies before yours or his fuel runs out. Not that Hamilton is not good at this by now, he is quite good even better than Button actually, but this kind of racing is bringing Jenson closer because the other teams and Hamilton's own mechanics are cocking it up!

Points difference now is only 12, after a 6 race Smack-down by Hamilton. Pretty disheartening if you ask me. Call me evil or whatever I don't care this is the internet, Infact some people might say.. "don't you want Mclaren to win the WCC?" yeah.. As long as Hamilton is the WDC

[What's Burning?]

Jenson just drives around at 85% and the traffic just seems to part itself before him like the Red sea. He signed a deal with the devil or something?
I mean good going on the start but everything just played into his hands after he got the 8th position.

Looking back, I said Jenson can't win the lottery every race weekend; but I was wrong. I just hope Hockenheim will break his lucky streak.
Otherwise, Jenson is playing number 2 quite well right now, but he is too close, not on raw pace but points-wise, for comfort. Hamilton can only go so fast and collect so many points but if the competing cars are not doing their jobs you will always find Jenson crawling in 30 seconds behind Hamilton's tail with nobody in between. The only cure for this is for the Mclaren to be just quick enough to beat the RedBull, this will enable Hamilton to win and Button to finish maybe 4th at best.

Sounds crazy doesn't it? Well that's what I feel. I don't hate Jenson Button but I hate when ordinary prevails. It's funny because the type of racing this season facilitates an average slow pace, just do enough to get in front and no more. True speed (for similar cars different drivers) is not rewarded at all, what is rewarded is knowing when your tyres are going to come alive/finish and hope that the other guys tyres don't come alive and/or dies before yours or his fuel runs out. Not that Hamilton is not good at this by now, he is quite good even better than Button actually, but this kind of racing is bringing Jenson closer because the other teams and Hamilton's own mechanics are cocking it up!

Points difference now is only 12, after a 6 race Smack-down by Hamilton. Pretty disheartening if you ask me. Call me evil or whatever I don't care this is the internet, Infact some people might say.. "don't you want Mclaren to win the WCC?" yeah.. As long as Hamilton is the WDC

As a kid you must have hated reading The Tortoise and The Hare. Hamilton is a racer and he's the most exciting driver to watch on the grid, but the way Button has been going about his season is the way the law of nature works. Nothing is ever more than what it needs to be to accomplish the given task, otherwise it's creating waste.

[manmonkee]

Jenson just drives around at 85% and the traffic just seems to part itself before him like the Red sea. He signed a deal with the devil or something?
I mean good going on the start but everything just played into his hands after he got the 8th position.

Looking back, I said Jenson can't win the lottery every race weekend; but I was wrong. I just hope Hockenheim will break his lucky streak.
Otherwise, Jenson is playing number 2 quite well right now, but he is too close, not on raw pace but points-wise, for comfort. Hamilton can only go so fast and collect so many points but if the competing cars are not doing their jobs you will always find Jenson crawling in 30 seconds behind Hamilton's tail with nobody in between. The only cure for this is for the Mclaren to be just quick enough to beat the RedBull, this will enable Hamilton to win and Button to finish maybe 4th at best.

Sounds crazy doesn't it? Well that's what I feel. I don't hate Jenson Button but I hate when ordinary prevails. It's funny because the type of racing this season facilitates an average slow pace, just do enough to get in front and no more. True speed (for similar cars different drivers) is not rewarded at all, what is rewarded is knowing when your tyres are going to come alive/finish and hope that the other guys tyres don't come alive and/or dies before yours or his fuel runs out. Not that Hamilton is not good at this by now, he is quite good even better than Button actually, but this kind of racing is bringing Jenson closer because the other teams and Hamilton's own mechanics are cocking it up!

Points difference now is only 12, after a 6 race Smack-down by Hamilton. Pretty disheartening if you ask me. Call me evil or whatever I don't care this is the internet, Infact some people might say.. "don't you want Mclaren to win the WCC?" yeah.. As long as Hamilton is the WDC

Did Jenson run off with your girlfriend or something???, The way you write about Jenson, it's like you've got a personal grudge.

[EwanM]

Jenson just drives around at 85% and the traffic just seems to part itself before him like the Red sea. He signed a deal with the devil or something?
I mean good going on the start but everything just played into his hands after he got the 8th position.

Looking back, I said Jenson can't win the lottery every race weekend; but I was wrong. I just hope Hockenheim will break his lucky streak.
Otherwise, Jenson is playing number 2 quite well right now, but he is too close, not on raw pace but points-wise, for comfort. Hamilton can only go so fast and collect so many points but if the competing cars are not doing their jobs you will always find Jenson crawling in 30 seconds behind Hamilton's tail with nobody in between. The only cure for this is for the Mclaren to be just quick enough to beat the RedBull, this will enable Hamilton to win and Button to finish maybe 4th at best.

Sounds crazy doesn't it? Well that's what I feel. I don't hate Jenson Button but I hate when ordinary prevails. It's funny because the type of racing this season facilitates an average slow pace, just do enough to get in front and no more. True speed (for similar cars different drivers) is not rewarded at all, what is rewarded is knowing when your tyres are going to come alive/finish and hope that the other guys tyres don't come alive and/or dies before yours or his fuel runs out. Not that Hamilton is not good at this by now, he is quite good even better than Button actually, but this kind of racing is bringing Jenson closer because the other teams and Hamilton's own mechanics are cocking it up!

Points difference now is only 12, after a 6 race Smack-down by Hamilton. Pretty disheartening if you ask me. Call me evil or whatever I don't care this is the internet, Infact some people might say.. "don't you want Mclaren to win the WCC?" yeah.. As long as Hamilton is the WDC

BOY YOU'RE GONNA CARRY THAT WEIGHT, CARRY THAT WEIGHT A LONG TIME...

[Hammer278]

the same could be said about lewis, what have people got against him. I have nothing against jenson i just think that the british media and the bbc are making him out to be something he is not. Certain media outlets would like nothing better that seeing jenson beat lewis but it's not working out that way.
The way eddie and jake make excuses when jenson fails to perform is a joke. Take this weekend when jenson came 14th and started moaning about the car yet lewis has the same car and performed when needed.

Jenson is second in the wdc through chance not pure driving skills.

The truth is in there.

[SaintDean]

With Jenson and Lewis being the top 2 it means its more than luck isnt it.

Also these 2 working as a team in the same team. What i get from these 2 is that they are using each other to perform the best they can with the pressure to perform and a bit of rivalry going on you cant beat it.

When 2 people dont get along and have a rivalry its bad but when 2 people are friends and have a rivalry it can only make things stronger in my opinion.

[myownalias]

What's with all the Jenson is lucky talk recently, he may not have qualified well but saying that Lewis has the same car is ridiculous; basically it may be the same car but there are so many setup differences that could influence car handling, it could simply be the Jenson and his engineers made the wrong calls about setup and 14th was the net result. But Jenson started agressively and moved upto 8th and through keeping his nose out of trouble he made it upto fourth in a car that wasn't so great! He would have made it on the podium as well if he had enough fuel to run at maximum revs in the closing stages. Jenson didn't become world champion by being lucky, yes there is an element of luck but as a driver he has to make his own way to the championship; although having a quick car is always useful!

[Hammer278]

Almost have me convinced with that post myownalias. Though I do feel Jenson has been pretty lucky, with the weather at the 2 races earlier, gambles he's made has heavily paid off where it didn't involve much driving skill or pace. I do agree he follows the 'wait and see' game which has benefitted him tremendously this season.

I would say your last line can't apply very well to Redbull this season though.

[vaptin]

You gotta realise that sometimes its just about playing the odds and "making your own luck", its what Jenson does and its a fair stragety. He drives cleanly, aggressively at times, and keeps his tyres in good shape and out of trouble. That way even when hes not on it, he's still able to pick up good solid points and often at the expensive of over drivers who generally have caused their own problems by being over aggressive.

[stonemonkey]

Almost have me convinced with that post myownalias. Though I do feel Jenson has been pretty lucky, with the weather at the 2 races earlier, gambles he's made has heavily paid off where it didn't involve much driving skill or pace. I do agree he follows the 'wait and see' game which has benefitted him tremendously this season.

I would say your last line can't apply very well to Redbull this season though.

bolding mine.

Driving a wet/drying track with slicks when everyone else reckons it's to early to make the change doesn't involve much driving skill??? Bad enough just trying to keep it on the track but also it needed at least some pace too.

[SaintDean]

True it would take heck of alot of skill to drive slicks on a wet track.

[What's Burning?]

although having a quick car is always useful!

That's an understatement.

[Hammer278]

Almost have me convinced with that post myownalias. Though I do feel Jenson has been pretty lucky, with the weather at the 2 races earlier, gambles he's made has heavily paid off where it didn't involve much driving skill or pace. I do agree he follows the 'wait and see' game which has benefitted him tremendously this season.

I would say your last line can't apply very well to Redbull this season though.

bolding mine.

Driving a wet/drying track with slicks when everyone else reckons it's to early to make the change doesn't involve much driving skill??? Bad enough just trying to keep it on the track but also it needed at least some pace too.

The reason why a driver switches to slicks on a damp track is because it gives him a massive advantage, which is equivalent to easier driving and control. What I mean to say is the strategy has simply worked out so well for him many times, even when he's taken massive gambles. Even he has admitted that he's taken the gamble "and it paid off", on more than one occasion.

I would think any driver out there can handle a car on slicks when the track is wet. They have just not taken that gamble, or have taken it and hasn't paid off as well as it has for Jenson. I think he is bloody lucky he is so close to Lewis in the WCC considering the way both drivers have driven this year. But that's just my opinion, which hardly matters to anyone but me. I just look forward to many more battles between the McLaren teammates.

[kerc]

I think Jenson did a terrific job at Silverstone.

Where Lewis is more of the boy-racer, driving at 11/10ths, Jenson is more of a paused, strategic type. I think they complement each other beautifully. Was luck involved? Well, luck is involved in the results for every driver out there. But he's also shown a knack for choosing with the team the right moment to do a pit stop, when to go faster, and when to save the car.

Damn, I love this team.