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By Jabberwocky
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Today I wished Jabberwoky aka the dude aka Andy aka the dark destroyer aka Bob, a happy birthday.

Happy Birthday Jabs.

(I know it's the wring thread. Just can't be arsed to post in the right one.)


Cheers matey :-)


Woot! Happy belated Birthday, Jabberwocky!

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Thanks

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By racechick
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Today I went to Bletchley Park. Really interesting. 53 people worked there when the guy running the show moved it to Bletchley from London just before the war. At its height during the war there were nearly ten thousand working there, and over twenty thousand in related industries, and it was all secret, even people working in one of the huts didn't know what people did in other huts. But they reckon their work cut the war short by two years, and that saved...erm , now I've forgotten how many lives it saved? Lots of millions.
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By racechick
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Incredibly clever people! they've reconstructed a bombe machine and they had it working and explained how they used it to crack the enigma codes. Unbelievable!
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By 1Lemon
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I've always felt bad that the UK invented the first computers, years before the American companies came out and did it, but it was kept secret right up until the late 90's. If our government had let computers develop here rather than have the MOD bury them then Silicon Valley might be in Milton Keynes rather than California.
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By 1Lemon
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But Charles Babbage had nothing to do with the MOD?

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IIRC he never made a working one, it was all theory; it was Turin/Colossus which was one of the first.
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By racechick
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But Charles Babbage had nothing to do with the MOD?

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IIRC he never made a working one, it was all theory; it was Turin/Colossus which was one of the first.


Turing didn't make colossus, it was Tommy Flowers, and it was used to crack the Lorenz code machine. Turing made the Bombe, which wasn't a computer, wasn't programmable, it searched combinations to find codes., that's the one that broke enigma.
It was Turing who had the philosophies that machines could test combinations much quicker than humans. Humans could never have done it.
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By Jabberwocky
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I can not remember the name of the man. I think he was a Major who first decrypted Enigma, using pen, paper, and a lot of time.

A lot of lessons where learnt by Enigma that is still taught in modern day Military Cryptography.

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You lot!…what?…don't stop give it all you got.

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After twenty something years of listening to that song, I just realized what those words were. :blush:
By LRW
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You lot!…what?…don't stop give it all you got.

After twenty something years of listening to that song, I just realized what those words were. :blush:


You quoting the Spice Girls...?
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By 1Lemon
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But Charles Babbage had nothing to do with the MOD?

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IIRC he never made a working one, it was all theory; it was Turin/Colossus which was one of the first.


Turing didn't make colossus, it was Tommy Flowers, and it was used to crack the Lorenz code machine. Turing made the Bombe, which wasn't a computer, wasn't programmable, it searched combinations to find codes., that's the one that broke enigma.
It was Turing who had the philosophies that machines could test combinations much quicker than humans. Humans could never have done it.


Yeah I know that, badly written on my part :hehe:

I'm so glad that they rebuilt Colossus to an almost working state (I don't think it's finished yet, maybe RC can shed some light on this as you just visited there)
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By racechick
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I think they have. There's a museum of computers just next to Bletchley park but separate from it, separate entrance fee, and colossus is in there. I wanted to go in there but ran out of time so will see that next time. The Bletchley tickets last a year and they're still developing it so I will go back.

They've rebuilt the bombe and that was working. The poles actually did a lot to crack enigma and Bletchley are keen to point that out and give credit. The guy you're thinking of I think Jab, is Dilly Knox. He took on from the poles and cracked enigma. But until Turing made the Bombe to mechanise the process because was too slow.
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By spankyham
#397602
Getting ready fly to Oz
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Getting ready fly to Oz

Have a safe flight, but you do realize that you missed the GP, right? :wink:
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