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[Hammer278]

To the guys hoping to see Merc penalized with points/disqualification/etc....Ross Brawn and co have a message for you:




YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAWN IS KING! Horner can kiss his fatar$e.

[What's Burning?]

Mercedes got off lightly, could and possibly should have lost some constructors points.

So should have the scuderia.

[LRW]

To the guys hoping to see Merc penalized with points/disqualification/etc....Ross Brawn and co have a message for you:




YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRAWN IS KING! Horner can kiss his fatar$e.

You remind me of Vlad right now. such a gracious winner.

[racechick]

Interesting
https://twitter.com/adamcooperf1/status ... 1992489985

[Hammer278]

It's not a WIN, it's JUSTICE. When others were shouting for INJUSTICE just because Brawn found yet another loophole and fooled everyone else.

[1Lemon]

I'm gonna' go out on a limb here and suggest that the ruling was less about justice, and more about trying to keep Merc and Pirelli in the sport, with a decision that was agreed a few days/weeks ago.

[What's Burning?]

It's not a WIN, it's JUSTICE. When others were shouting for INJUSTICE just because Brawn found yet another loophole and fooled everyone else.

I don't think he went out looking for a loophole. If you read the released document. Page 8, where Pirelli gives their side of the story it's clear that they felt the the tires were unsafe and that using a 2013 car was the ideal way for them to get on top of it. Mercedes didn't ask for the testing, Pirelli did.

[Hammer278]

In a way though, he grabbed the opportunity and Redbull didn't. Check out this link.

http://en.espnf1.com/fia/motorsport/story/111971.html

Merc did get an advantage, and got away with it almost scot free. Redbull and Ferrari just couldn't bear with it and tried to shoot them down, Horner especially wasting his time in a jet plane to cure his misery...and now he's flying back even more miserable.

[darwin dali]

I'm gonna' go out on a limb here and suggest that the ruling was less about justice, and more about trying to keep Merc and Pirelli in the sport, with a decision that was agreed a few days/weeks ago.

That's a possibility indeed.

[1Lemon]

In a way though, he grabbed the opportunity and Redbull didn't. Check out this link.

http://en.espnf1.com/fia/motorsport/story/111971.html

Merc did get an advantage, and got away with it almost scot free. Redbull and Ferrari just couldn't bear with it and tried to shoot them down, Horner especially wasting his time in a jet plane to cure his misery...and now he's flying back even more miserable.

I bet if it was Ferrari or RedBull who had done this, you'd be up in arms....

[LiamCatterson]

I just got to point out that I am laughing my rear end off to the fact that Christian Horner is probably sulking like a little child now over the fact that Red Bull's way has not be granted once more

[spankyham]

All in all the report is a very good read, and I think the one good thing to come out of this is that the tribunal did a really good job, and IMO, given the facts, their decision is reasonable.

Having said that, if I were a boss of any of the other teams I'd be doing my best to get my testing, with my current car, underway as soon after Silverstone as possible. Do 3 days of testing with your current drivers at the wheel. As well as the test you also get to receive the Pirelli trackside engineers reports from all the testing. Best of all you can do it in complete secrecy (closed track and no FiA or other teams there to watch). All you give up is the young drivers test - that's a great deal really.

[LRW]

All in all the report is a very good read, and I think the one good thing to come out of this is that the tribunal did a really good job, and IMO, given the facts, their decision is reasonable.

Having said that, if I were a boss of any of the other teams I'd be doing my best to get my testing, with my current car, underway as soon after Silverstone as possible. Do 3 days of testing with your current drivers at the wheel. As well as the test you also get to receive the Pirelli trackside engineers reports from all the testing. Best of all you can do it in complete secrecy (closed track and no FiA or other teams there to watch). All you give up is the young drivers test - that's a great deal really.

But to get the same punishment as Merc, you'd need to follow the same procedure as Merc, and as soon as you approach Charlie, he'd be like... "Nope!! No way, no comment, Im not getting involved!"

[1Lemon]

All in all the report is a very good read, and I think the one good thing to come out of this is that the tribunal did a really good job, and IMO, given the facts, their decision is reasonable.

Having said that, if I were a boss of any of the other teams I'd be doing my best to get my testing, with my current car, underway as soon after Silverstone as possible. Do 3 days of testing with your current drivers at the wheel. As well as the test you also get to receive the Pirelli trackside engineers reports from all the testing. Best of all you can do it in complete secrecy (closed track and no FiA or other teams there to watch). All you give up is the young drivers test - that's a great deal really.

But to get the same punishment as Merc, you'd need to follow the same procedure as Merc, and as soon as you approach Charlie, he'd be like... "Nope!! No way, no comment, Im not getting involved!"

Get Merc to forward any emails to you

[What's Burning?]

There are no equivalencies here folks. Mercedes got a wrist slap because it wasn't their intent to cheat, they followed the usual process and got an okay. Yes they made the best of the situation by using the new car and did get information that would otherwise be inaccessible to them but it effectively wasn't illegal given that they followed the process.

I think what's clear here is that lack of in season testing is a dumb, dumb, idea and it's the reason not just Mercedes, but also Ferrari and Red Bull and any other teams with the means to sneak in some testing wherever possible even if they have to "skirt" the rules a bit will take that opportunity.

I'd like to see a team try and do what Merc did and get away with it. At best, Pirelli would try and advocate for a test day for teams interested at some point during the balance of this season.